tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post1864090256354914518..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: E-Cigs: Cottage Industry To Big BusinessDick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-88873825971272245952012-05-28T20:01:22.940+01:002012-05-28T20:01:22.940+01:00 Hello Jocelyn - I have used many brands of ecigs ... Hello Jocelyn - I have used many brands of ecigs over the last 3 years. I like the one you use and have one but I tend to go for those that do not look like real fags these days - which are not for everyone I know.<br /><br />The cheapest and most discrete non-cig-looking one is called an SDK - great for using where you shouldn't really be 'smoking' as it hides in the palm of your hand. I used mine at the hospital yesterday and no-one even knew.<br /><br />If you want recommendations and are prepared to be blasted with thousands of suggestions, try one of the ecig forums - but don't blame me if it confuses you and makes you spend lots of money!Russell Vincent Richard Ordhttp://www.facebook.com/RustyCAMVIPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-51160256973937191652012-05-25T11:30:10.024+01:002012-05-25T11:30:10.024+01:00 @jack In 2009 I had a bad experience with a poor ... @jack In 2009 I had a bad experience with a poor three part device like you, but in 2011 I saw something that might possibly be useful on the (then new) JACVapour site. I bought a starter kit. Never looked back! All their devices are robust and do the job. I have also bought from other vendors like cloud9vaping. These two suppliers Andy at JACVapour and Lisa at cloud9vaping are dead honest and care about their devices and customers - absent from the motive of greed. I like that. It commands my loyalty.vapingpointhttp://twitter.com/Vapingpointnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-24881487545121707632012-05-25T11:04:03.389+01:002012-05-25T11:04:03.389+01:00The principles of liberty still remain
If you want...The principles of liberty still remain<br />If you want a smoke free venue I will fight for your choice<br />If you want to enjoy an E Cig ,again, I will fight for your choice<br />If I wish to smoke a cigarette in a Pub,will you fight for my choice.<br />When a small elite clique decide the freeoms of others ,all rules of engagement,all conventions ,all decencies ,all civised conducts are abandoned,torn up.<br />When despots do as they wish,so be it<br />So shall we.<br /><br />One of the "300"Not Dun Yetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-25290513743989500332012-05-25T10:52:45.000+01:002012-05-25T10:52:45.000+01:00I'll hold my tongue about Liberty Flights'...I'll hold my tongue about Liberty Flights' atomisers, IYSWIM. ;)Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-11392900084592864412012-05-25T10:21:54.031+01:002012-05-25T10:21:54.031+01:00@ Russell - what brand of e-cig do you use? I hav...@ Russell - what brand of e-cig do you use? I have the 'Halo' from ECigarette Direct (Smokers Angel), which I think is pretty good as far as taste is concerned, the cartridges last a long time and the product is good value for money. But I'm always interested in hearing recommendations from experienced vapers. <br /><br />I still smoke, only I now smoke less.Jocelynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-39159232803853289352012-05-25T08:29:06.724+01:002012-05-25T08:29:06.724+01:00This is all good :)
I am a smoker who uses ecigs ...This is all good :)<br /><br />I am a smoker who uses ecigs more than I <br />smoke. Once you find a 'brand' that works, it is just as good as a real<br /> fag. However the problems are that many of the brands that are <br />commonly seen (due to their massive marketing budgets) are not very good<br /> and their claims about their performance give smokers unrealistic <br />expectations - which leads to disappointment. Also some esmokers or the<br /> hobbiest 'vapers' as they like to be known, recommend huge things that <br />look like shiny drug taking devices that many smokers just think that <br />ecigs are crap and NEVER for them in any situation.<br /><br />The places I <br />use my ecig the most are in the car, at work and more importantly IN the<br /> pub. A good ecig can satisfy this smoker for hours on end if I know I <br />cannot smoke where I want to be.<br /><br />Traditional pubs are dying on <br />their arse for many reasons BUT getting smokers IN and using good ecigs <br />whilst they are there is possibly one way to protect that endangered <br />species for a few years. The tobacco companies have the power to make <br />that happen.<br /><br />Tobacco companies also have the money and <br />way-with-all to ensure that the smokers experience of ecigs is better <br />than what they currently get from smoking tobacco cigarettes. A few <br />years down the line and we may all be wondering why we even doubted the <br />benefits of ecigs over real fags.<br /><br />Russell VR Ord<br />Founder of the Campaign for Vaping in Pubs<br /> Russell Vincent Richard Ordhttp://www.facebook.com/RustyCAMVIPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-89225613012843211632012-05-25T02:31:45.077+01:002012-05-25T02:31:45.077+01:00Don't think I've ever had a shipment that ...Don't think I've ever had a shipment that wasn't next day too. But since I like trying out flavours, though their range is adequate and I could last on them no problem, I've just put in an order also at LibertyFlights.co.uk as they have a huge range and appear not to have the deliver problems of dealing with an overseas supplier. Will let you know how they are.Jock Coatshttp://profiles.google.com/jock.coatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-71250603299957852522012-05-24T21:55:23.368+01:002012-05-24T21:55:23.368+01:00Ta for the recommendation, JC, certainly worth loo...Ta for the recommendation, JC, certainly worth looking into. Especially if their accessories fit with the kit I use currently. Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-18867163510048033142012-05-24T21:35:51.551+01:002012-05-24T21:35:51.551+01:00"they should remember that their customers ar...<i>"they should remember that their customers are smokers"</i><br />Very true. The UBS report found that 99% of e-cig users were former smokers, and 82% still smoke (page 6). It's just that a majority of them smoke less (like me) ;)Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-26381603059611877992012-05-24T21:31:04.441+01:002012-05-24T21:31:04.441+01:00Sorry,I'm sticking with the real thing
The cho...Sorry,I'm sticking with the real thing<br />The choice is somewhat similar to one's choice of women<br />I prefer the real thing as opposed to inflatable dolls.<br />Anyway you cant use E Fags in the Taverns of the Undead,<br />The Innes of Despair<br />Wetherspoons<br />Goes without saying ,if E fags give pleasure, the puritans will be soon be<br />pestering the Westminster whimps to ban them everywhere <br />Oh befoer I go,did you REALLY have to mention that sump sniffing ,<br />thistle munching ,kilt lifting,pictish ,crofting,snichJock Bannatyne<br />The McSchmuck really wants stuffing up some God forsaken,heather bound rain sodden ,mozzy infested Glen with the other po faced ,joy<br />dreading Calvinists and Knoxite congregations of universal misery.<br /><br />Joie de Vivre Dolce Vitanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-48501023004696164882012-05-24T20:41:19.027+01:002012-05-24T20:41:19.027+01:00A very enjoyable read! I agree, I think it's ...A very enjoyable read! I agree, I think it's a good thing, which would benefit both tobacco and e-cig companies. And personally, If anyone was to 'buy out' e-cig companies, I'd rather it was Big T than Big Pharma: if it's Tobacco companies then they'd invest a lot in making e-cigs even better, and, due to all the competition - cheaper. Whereas Big Pharma would make them more expensive and probably put all sorts of nasty additives in them. <br /><br />This is why I think that the E-Cigarette companies should NOT be trying to appeal to the Healthists to get on their side. Although I enjoy using e-cigarettes, I think a lot of their websites and blogs have a strong 'anti smoking' tone - they should remember that their customers are smokers who are I think are, for the most part fed up with all the antismoking propaganda. Smokers and Vapers (and 'dual-users like myself!) should unite against the prohibitionists and banmeisters - because they don't like e-cigs either - they look too much like the real thing and can entice the chiiiiiiiiiiiiildren!<br /><br />Interesting links posted here. I see the holy zealots are out in full force preaching their usual gospel of hell-fire and damnation! The thought of anyone doing anything pleasurable fills them with such fear and dread - and jealousy because they're a bunch of miserable gits themselves!Jocelynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-20973691408422170202012-05-24T20:00:55.792+01:002012-05-24T20:00:55.792+01:00'Of particular concern is how these devices cl...'Of particular concern is how these devices closely resemble cigarettes, in terms of appearance and nomenclature, as well as features such as flavouring and styling that are potentially highly attractive to children.<br />Typical Anti Rubbish! Oh but it's 'For the Children' of course!Jocelynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-23091750179872062752012-05-24T19:09:10.013+01:002012-05-24T19:09:10.013+01:00Equally, if you find a good, friendly supplier (I ...Equally, if you find a good, friendly supplier (I use JACVapour.com, an Edinburgh based couple I believe, for most things vamping) I do want to keep them. They've been good and I'm loyal to them as much as to the devices themselves. My first attempt was terrible, but that was when things came in three bits not two and you had to replace them all at different rates and had to hold a button down like a nob-head to draw on them. <br /><br />On the other hand Chinese (I think) liquid supplier Zicchi have not got any of my pretty basic two orders right and though I would like to give more of their flavours a go I've lost confidence in them ever getting anything right or replying when it's wrong. On the one or two occasions JAC has got something wrong, it's been dealt with absolutely promptly and with no quibble.<br /><br />Here's another interesting scare-article (and comments refuting it from non-users as well as users): http://www.cyprus-mail.com/desert-ship/government-warning-over-dangers-electronic-cigarettes/20120523Jock Coatshttp://profiles.google.com/jock.coatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-4662917096415545572012-05-24T17:53:35.874+01:002012-05-24T17:53:35.874+01:00Agreed. I've had a couple of atomisers which l...Agreed. I've had a couple of atomisers which lasted just a day, plus a dodgy battery before. Quality control is just one thing big business can bring to the e-cig market as it's true there are problems in that area. Again, Kessler covers that in the vid. Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-74107876587353273002012-05-24T17:52:08.324+01:002012-05-24T17:52:08.324+01:00Exactly the type of thing Kessler describes in the...Exactly the type of thing Kessler describes in the video when he talks about bans by small authorities "because of ignorance". The idea of an e-cig setting fire to bedding is laughably dumb. Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-23324791578922169362012-05-24T17:47:51.382+01:002012-05-24T17:47:51.382+01:00It's a real shame that my only experience with...It's a real shame that my only experience with a UK e-cig company was pretty dreadful. I won't name the company, but they really turned me off of the idea of vaping. And so after a few purchases where they sent the wrong goods, two dead batteries in fewer than 30 days, and lackluster inattentive communication on their part, I gave up the idea and switched to snus, which is a lot more difficult to get. Not to mention that e-cig company was openly advocating against traditional cigarettes and spreading the same propaganda as TC, which really pissed me off. Jayhttp://nannyingtyrants.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-40780814011567528622012-05-24T17:36:42.085+01:002012-05-24T17:36:42.085+01:00DP,
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Health/a...DP,<br />http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Health/article/22967/nhs-fife-bans-e-cigarettes-on-safety-grounds.html?<br /><br />NHS Fife bans e- cigarettes on safety groundsshelldonnoreply@blogger.com