tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post1944591810924985710..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: So, Can We Call It A Failure Yet?Dick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-64160168584052082702009-07-03T23:38:54.869+01:002009-07-03T23:38:54.869+01:00timbone
It is also a proven fact that banning sm...timbone <br /><br />It is also a proven fact that banning smoking on flights meant that they could introduce less oxygen injected into cabin to refresh air, so more savings to the airlines in costs ( not passed on), but higher CO2 levels, more drunkeness and air rage. <br /><br />I can find no example of an aeroplane being brought down or catching fire froma cigarette , but it was sold as a 'safety' measurePavlov's Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162563403722211352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-18299182449418338522009-07-03T23:05:47.300+01:002009-07-03T23:05:47.300+01:00If more people smoke after a ban then that must ma...If more people smoke after a ban then that must make the tax man very happy. Once they start seriously on the drinkers..just watch sales rise and the revenue come tumbling into the troughers pockets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-43780897657408469402009-07-03T22:40:41.134+01:002009-07-03T22:40:41.134+01:00Pavlov's Cat, banning smoking on planes (12 ho...Pavlov's Cat, banning smoking on planes (12 hour flight ahhhhhhh) was one of the early building blocks in a total ban. It is a known fact that no smoke = turn down the air con = my wife getting a chest infection after a plane journey.timbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06985165416240833253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-12283500358211486602009-07-03T22:19:16.429+01:002009-07-03T22:19:16.429+01:00The first time I really realised Japan was a civil...The first time I really realised Japan was a civilised country, was after a 12 hour flight, when you get off the plane, there are smoking rooms. <br /><br />As compared to Heathrow, Gatwick, where it's: Off, walk miles, passport control, wait for bags, customs control, try to sell you last minute shit, underground carpark. <br /><br />Welcome to the UKPavlov's Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162563403722211352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-66304216865501828102009-07-03T21:48:57.879+01:002009-07-03T21:48:57.879+01:00Fabulous blog. I so wish that this, word for word,...Fabulous blog. I so wish that this, word for word, could be seen by the whole bloody nation - well, slight editing here and there ahem lol<br /><br />I hope that the save our pubs and clubs campaign not only achieves success, but that there is a knock on effect for some humanity and common sense in places like hospitals, mental insitutions and airports.<br /><br />I hope that, if there is a Tory government next year, and they carry out their proposals to stop using public money to fund quangos, that ASH are one of the fake charities who lose their funding.<br /><br />I am very pleased that Tom Harris, Labour MP for Glasgow East, former transport minister scaked because he tells the truth, a non smoker who voted against the ban, has the save our pubs and clubs banner on his excellent blogspot http://www.tomharris.org.uk/timbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06985165416240833253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-21728739497234019852009-07-03T19:55:09.345+01:002009-07-03T19:55:09.345+01:00P.S. Good news on the F2C front page!
JayP.S. Good news on the F2C front page!<br /><br />JayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-50783658772915218252009-07-03T19:53:42.425+01:002009-07-03T19:53:42.425+01:00Bearwitch - LOL but conversely, I worked for a sh...Bearwitch - LOL but conversely, I worked for a short time in a cig factory. Everyone went to great lengths to justify themselves and the staff in HR (all non-smokers) were complaining about my smoking in the office. I did point out that I was keeping them in a job...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-83327026304296233142009-07-03T17:21:53.346+01:002009-07-03T17:21:53.346+01:00Just a note about the ASH righteous.
A (non-smoki...Just a note about the ASH righteous.<br /><br />A (non-smoking) friend of mine observed a photo shoot on behalf of ASH and apparently they were ASH employees who were in the shoot. <br /><br />As soon as the photo shoot finished, she was very amused to see a lot of them take out their cigs and light up.<br /><br />I suppose it is only a job after all....Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969767902477233674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-27353373115147658052009-07-03T14:30:36.379+01:002009-07-03T14:30:36.379+01:00So, Can We Call It A Failure Yet?
Obama (and Bob ...So, Can We Call It A Failure Yet?<br /><br />Obama (and Bob the Builder) said it best: Yes We Can!BTSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-75304365873835917092009-07-03T14:27:40.393+01:002009-07-03T14:27:40.393+01:00I've been rather confused about these figures ...I've been rather confused about these figures of late. Thanks for laying it out neatly for me.<br /><br />I'm still confused though - wtf are the government actually trying to achieve..?BTSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-89481525561917515542009-07-03T14:07:14.343+01:002009-07-03T14:07:14.343+01:00What about all the DOLE money paid to the tens of ...What about all the DOLE money paid to the tens of thousands of staff made unemployed by the smoking ban and the tax they would have paid if they were still employed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-16554039001799250962009-07-03T12:28:37.401+01:002009-07-03T12:28:37.401+01:00Anon,
No, you're not alone.
This whole "...Anon,<br /><br />No, you're not alone.<br /><br />This whole "social experiment" has been kind of interesting. Prior to the Ban no-one seemed particularly bothered by smoke - I hadn't met anyone who wanted a ban in 20 years of pub-going and 8 or 9 years online. Once the Ban was announced, however, there seemed to be a surge of pro-ban sentiment (on forums at least, if not in the meat world). Still a minority, but a vocal one, mainly it seems, made up of ASH employees posting under various accounts and social misfits who "finally got one over on those dirty smokers" who bullied them at school. However, there were a few people who welcomed it thinking pubs would be the same, albeit with no smoke. Since the Ban however, I've noticed more people growing sceptical of the science and of the "impartiality" of ASH. I've also seen the pro-Ban voices dwindle, to usually one or two people who post on threads again and again and again.... and they are usually overwhelmed by anti-Ban sentiment, as even non-smokers have seen the damage done to pubs both economically and in terms of atmosphere (both lack of, and fart-filled). This has probably been the case for a year or so.<br /><br />However, there seems to have been a definite sea-change in the last couple of months and I'm sure the Save Our Pubs Campaign has been instrumental in it. That, and people realising that "Hey, it's been two years now and things still haven't got better. I think this is actually how things are going to be if the ban isn't changed. It's not a matter of "adjusting." This is it!" <br /><br />I am feeling ever more hopeful of an amendment now. But the presure needs to be maintained.<br /><br />And captianff - I have no doubt you're right. The social misfits at ASH have no idea how people think so I'm not surprised that they've messed up yet again. There's precious little smoking on TV now, so pre-2007 a child from a non-smoking family woud rarely have seen a smoker as all the smokers were in their homes or adult-only environments (i.e. pubs). Put them outside every building and every pub and suddenly it seems that smokers are everywhere. If anything, their action has "normalised" smoking as smokers are so ubiquitous now. Throw in their attempts at denormalisation and you have something which is both rebellious yet "normal" at the same time - an irresistible lure to defiant youth.<br /><br />That's ultimately why these idiots will fail. Not only are their claims based on lies, but they have absolutely no idea how people think.Mr Ahttp://mr--a.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-15094546529008642712009-07-03T12:00:00.246+01:002009-07-03T12:00:00.246+01:00Just a thought about the increased numbers of smok...Just a thought about the increased numbers of smokers .. .. .. do you think that having large numbers of adults standing outside a pub having a pint, a fag and a laugh is too much of a tempting image for the young? Maybe if we forced smokers back inside pubs the impressionable school kids wouldn't see smoking so often .. .. .. just a thought.manwiddicombehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499331812704446499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-9890581844414548122009-07-03T10:59:02.872+01:002009-07-03T10:59:02.872+01:00Slowly, slowly, the word seems to be getting out t...Slowly, slowly, the word seems to be getting out that the whole thing's been a con but I wouldn't depend on the MSM to expose it. The blogs, however, are doing a great job and I have hopes that the Save Our Pubs Campaign will gain momentum.<br /><br />Is it just me being wildly and wrongly optimistic or do other people feel that the wind's changing?<br /><br />JayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-43204496806085440542009-07-03T09:31:14.626+01:002009-07-03T09:31:14.626+01:00Great post, Dick.
The Ban has failed in every res...Great post, Dick.<br /><br />The Ban has failed in every respect.<br /><br />WE know it.<br /><br />THEY know it.<br /><br />Hell, even the fake charity quangos like ASH and CRUK know it which is why they are coming out with more and more outlandish claims and contradictory press releases.<br /><br />So when is someone going to grow the balls and go public with it? Or do they think that we'll just all happily live with the knowledge that we're being lied to whilst simultaneously funding their deception with our taxes?<br /><br />One day soon, someone, somewhere in the mainstream media is going to do an expose on all this and the whole anti-tobacco movement in the UK will tumble like a house of cards.<br /><br />And that day can't come soon enough if we value scientific rigour, freedom and a robust economy.Mr. Ahttp://mr--a.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com