tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post3520667530704854991..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: The Irresistible Rise Of The E-Cig: Bad News For Tobacco ControlDick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-66264870740786960152014-11-19T17:24:48.345+00:002014-11-19T17:24:48.345+00:00Think back to the first time you ever heard of be...Think back to the first time you ever heard of <a href="http://futurevape.co.uk" rel="nofollow"> best e cig. There are many factors </a>which influenced the development of best e cig. Indispensable to homosapians today, its influence on western cinema has not been given proper recognition. It is an unfortunate consequence of our civilizations history that best e cig is rarely given rational consideration by those politicaly minded individuals living in the past, whom I can say no more about due to legal restrictions. At the heart of the subject are a number of key factors. I plan to examine each of these factors in detail and and asses their importance.abbottabel1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-42011270889210320732013-02-01T07:28:58.131+00:002013-02-01T07:28:58.131+00:00One of the most important reasons why people are a...One of the most important reasons why people are afraid to stop cigarette smoking is that they fear from the smoking drawback symptoms and they are not able to tackle the smoking craving after quitting. Smoking is not just a cigarette smoking but it's an addiction of smoking which makes your system dependent and whose drawback can shake your system like anything. However the great thing is that no matter hoe addictive the cigarette smoking is, you can definitely stop cigarette smoking through several good methods.<br /><a href="http://www.steamlite.co.uk/pages/How-does-E-Cigarette-Taste.html/" rel="nofollow">e juice taste</a>ronak123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-62554127626384694412012-06-07T13:46:31.202+01:002012-06-07T13:46:31.202+01:00Best Alternative For Smoking Every Where – In A Di...Best Alternative For Smoking Every Where – In A Different Flavors<br /><br />New way to enjoy smoking without any restriction,<br />Electronic Cigarettes which provides same feeling of Tobacco in different flavors.<br />For more details please visit us: http://www.neverlightagain.com<br /> Mel Briggsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-17671976765940670072012-01-09T08:27:03.291+00:002012-01-09T08:27:03.291+00:00Right, a lot are trying to ban the use of electron...Right, a lot are trying to ban the use of electronic cigarette's use indoor but a lot of states have also passed on a ban on electronic cigarettes now. The latest I have read on ban of ecigs is on US flights, though some planes still would allow the use of it. Guess, vapers will just have to take that flight.DVaperhttp://www.ecig-reviews.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-14259430397029724022012-01-04T13:28:21.436+00:002012-01-04T13:28:21.436+00:00Hi Russell, apologies for wrongly suspecting your ...Hi Russell, apologies for wrongly suspecting your motives. I don't think groups of vapers in pubs furthers the cause of those of us who want smoking pubs or smoking clubs. It will just bring forward the day when the only legal "ecigs" are expensive to use and don't look like cigarettes. The Government can never ban today's ecigs as they are small and the small bottles of liquid are so cheap and so easy to smuggle, but it can ban their indoor use on some nonsense safety grounds. Ecig use in non-residential buildings cannot be permitted when tobacco smoking is banned - for so many reasons, including the important taking the p*** reason. Those governments which have already banned ecigs know perfectly well they pose no danger.Jonathan Bagleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331501151709216753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-15403594374179273572012-01-04T02:29:51.398+00:002012-01-04T02:29:51.398+00:00SHS, Second Hand Smoke can as easily become SHS, S...SHS, Second Hand Smoke can as easily become SHS, Second Hand Steam, something to bear in mind when out drum beating against SHS, even though the studies showed no correlation, no cause and effect, the other factors beside the point. Lithium batteries can explode and in an airplane that could prove fatal. So lots of other factors could be found as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-43581057576571795982012-01-03T21:02:19.098+00:002012-01-03T21:02:19.098+00:00We can argue over the scope of the risks of fires,...We can argue over the scope of the risks of fires, burns, and smoke damage to bystanders and what percentage are psychosomatic all day, but that doesn't change the fact that smoking poses objective health risks (however large or minute) to bystanders that are explicitly NOT posed by smoke-free alternatives like e-cigarettes, Swedish-style snus, liquids and dissolvables.The Devil's Thadvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365914932648272702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-90502439547872756602012-01-03T19:27:58.987+00:002012-01-03T19:27:58.987+00:00"designed to mimic the activity of smoking wi..."designed to mimic the activity of smoking without any of the risks of lighting tobacco on fire and directly or indirectly inhaling the smoke."<br /><br />.. Only all the "studies" in the world show NO risk regarding second-hand-smoke. So it is promoting a fraud to promote e-cigs based on the trumped up falsely accused issue of second-hand-smoke "harm", which is a myth, a lie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-74138889904660206862012-01-03T18:03:33.532+00:002012-01-03T18:03:33.532+00:00@Jonathan. I am a smoker who also uses ecigs. I ...@Jonathan. I am a smoker who also uses ecigs. I did not have a tobacco cigarette for 2 years when I first started using them but now I do both.<br /><br />These days, I enjoy smoking all of the few I have now rather than enjoying a few of all the 45 a day I used to smoke.<br /><br />The smoking ban is the most devisive piece of legislation of recent years and too few people have stood up for the rights of smokers. The pub industry and CAMRA did themselves no favours by going along with the ban and soon we will see all pubs being child-friendly eateries or over priced sellers of craft-beers. That is when I'll give up.<br /><br />In the meantime, there is a spoke in the works - the ecig - It allows smokers to 'smoke' inside if they want to (can be @rsed). If ecigs are banned, it must only be for the fact that they look like someone is smoking and enjoying themselves too much.<br /><br />CAM-VIP is about the pubs and if the smoking activists care about their pubs, they need to pick up an ecig and join me and my mates vaping inside and goad the Government into action rather than hoping for the miracle of an amendment of the smoking ban - which isn't going to happen!<br /><br />Russell VR OrdCampaign for Vaping in Pubshttp://camvip.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-7071147643147077022012-01-03T14:55:21.198+00:002012-01-03T14:55:21.198+00:00"e-cigs are for enlightened smokers who are n..."e-cigs are for enlightened smokers who are not in denial."<br /><br />I'd say ecigs are for those who have tried them and find them a satisfying alternative to cigarettes. All the smokers who comment here have tried them.Jonathan Bagleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331501151709216753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-68325609245704075502012-01-03T14:44:40.479+00:002012-01-03T14:44:40.479+00:00tolerance is the buzz word pro smokers preach.
tr...tolerance is the buzz word pro smokers preach.<br /><br />try it yourself dickieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-20816635313575891052012-01-03T13:20:32.512+00:002012-01-03T13:20:32.512+00:00The only reason most I know contemplate the use of...The only reason most I know contemplate the use of e-cigs is either to 'vape' in a pub or reduce the cost. As most pubs still do not accept them and, in most cases, the difference in overall saving is minimal you only have the 'health' freaks as the main market. As most give up by themselves, anyway, resulting in no cost at all, your market is even more limited.<br /><br />IMO, they are still crap but I'm willing to try provided I can find a decent pub that accepts them.<br /><br />You'll get nowhere on here repeating the ASH splurge. There are many knowledgeable people who'll be more than willing to debate these assertions. If you wish to propagate e-cigs, be careful how you do itFranknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-83599161031514945862012-01-03T13:04:36.529+00:002012-01-03T13:04:36.529+00:00I disagree with Russell. Smokers should stay out o...I disagree with Russell. Smokers should stay out of pubs and run as many as they can into the ground. He's clearly not intersted in getting the smoking ban amended and there's a cat#s chance in hell of the Government encouraging ecig smoking in bars and restaurants wher children are now unfortunately and, for financial reasons, necessarily allowed. So, Ecig rooms in pubs? How ridiculous. Ecigs will eventually be brought into the mainstream, manufactured by drug companies, very expensive and highly taxed. They do nthing for me. The only thing they are good for is causing trouble for cctv operators.Jonathan Bagleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331501151709216753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-76627717432790293092012-01-03T13:01:14.610+00:002012-01-03T13:01:14.610+00:00Good catch on the redundant redundancy Frank, I...Good catch on the redundant redundancy Frank, I'll rephrase: An e-cigarette is a battery powered fog machine that is designed to mimic the activity of smoking without any of the risks of lighting tobacco on fire and directly or indirectly inhaling the smoke.<br /><br />Lighting tobacco on fire and inhaling the smoke hundreds of times a day has well documented negative health effects, including causing approximately 8.6 Million Americans to suffer from a chronic disease that is caused or worsened by smoking, yet they remain either unable or simply unwilling to quit. In spite of the fact that 58% of smokers want to quit badly enough to make at least one attempt to quit using "proven safe & effective" cessation pharmaceuticals each year, and ever increasing cigarette taxes, and constant demonization and "denormalization" from anti-nicotine zealots...the number of smokers remains virtually unchanged, while the death-toll mounts from users and innocent bystanders of the "violent or suicidal thoughts and actions" or deadly cardiovascular risks of Chantix, or the 600-2000% increase in risk of seizure from Wellbutrin. That's the FDA's idea of "safe", and their idea of "effective" is NRT's that have a proven relapse rate of 98.4% twenty months after treatment was judged by the FDA as more effective than placebo that had a 99.3% relapse rate at 20 months.(1.6% is "more than twice as effective" as .7% with placebo*)<br /><br />*Note: The FDA is not aware of any clinical evidence that smoking cessation with placebo is more effective than quitting "cold turkey" or other non-pharmaceutical methods or substituting with reduced harm alternatives.The Devil's Thadvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365914932648272702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-3401514920703214872012-01-03T12:47:46.727+00:002012-01-03T12:47:46.727+00:00"Actually I think the term nisakiman was look...<i>"Actually I think the term nisakiman was looking for was "vaporizers"..."</i><br /><br />No, nisakiman wasn't actually looking for any term.<br /><br /><i>"An e-cigarette is a personal vaporizer designed to look and operate similar to an "analog" cigarette and most closely mimic the behavior of smoking without any of the hazards or byproducts of combustion that account for at least 99% of the known risks to users and bystanders of chronic tobacco use."</i><br /><br />Gosh. I never knew that...nisakimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-85319336983762478002012-01-03T12:24:17.904+00:002012-01-03T12:24:17.904+00:00Wouldn't think that anybody who uses the words...Wouldn't think that anybody who uses the words "known risks to users and bystanders of chronic tobacco use" is going to be listened to.<br /><br />Better luck next time. Think it through, first!Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-24061751341906712502012-01-03T11:55:16.127+00:002012-01-03T11:55:16.127+00:00Actually I think the term nisakiman was looking fo...Actually I think the term nisakiman was looking for was "vaporizers" or the preferred abbreviation "PV" for Personal Vaporizer.<br /><br />An e-cigarette is a personal vaporizer designed to look and operate similar to an "analog" cigarette and most closely mimic the behavior of smoking without any of the hazards or byproducts of combustion that account for at least 99% of the known risks to users and bystanders of chronic tobacco use. <br /><br />It is called an "e-cigarette" because it is marketed to adult cigarette smokers looking for a smoke-free alternative. If cigarettes do not appeal to you, you are not the target market for e-cigarettes.The Devil's Thadvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365914932648272702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-91502229648171271722012-01-03T11:20:45.936+00:002012-01-03T11:20:45.936+00:00anonymous nisakiman said
Vapers, not vapors. Do ...anonymous nisakiman said<br /><br />Vapers, not vapors. Do keep up dear.<br /><br /><br /><br />yes dear please do keep up...try google next time, if you dont understand words you are readingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-13586062784597742702012-01-03T10:11:41.302+00:002012-01-03T10:11:41.302+00:00"Anonymous janet47 said...
Why not chang...<i>"Anonymous janet47 said...<br /><br /> Why not change the shape of vapors from an offensive cigarette lookalike to mobile phone shape"</i><br /><br />Vap<b>e</b>rs, not vap<b>o</b>rs. Do keep up dear.<br /><br />And anyway, most vapers I've known have been human shaped.nisakimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-18220562513844954482012-01-03T09:46:28.227+00:002012-01-03T09:46:28.227+00:00Andrew: Thanks for that. Reports I have read have ...Andrew: Thanks for that. Reports I have read have always pointed to them being illegal in Australia. For example, in Queensland, there is an <a href="http://dickpuddlecote.blogspot.com/2011/05/breaking-news-australia-has-officially.html" rel="nofollow">$8,000 fine</a> for trying to buy e-liquid online, and this seems pretty unequivocal <a href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/electronic-cigarettes-sold-online-illegally/story-e6frfro0-1111118601200" rel="nofollow">from 2009</a>.<br /><br /><i>"Last October, the National Drugs and Poisons Schedule Committee (NDPSC) decided that this classification should remain for e-cigarettes, which effectively makes it illegal to sell nicotine e-cigarettes in all states and territories."</i><br /><br />I'd be very interested to know if there has been a rethink of these rulings.Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-76169742278902980362012-01-03T01:43:08.825+00:002012-01-03T01:43:08.825+00:00they are not illegall here in australia...you just...they are not illegall here in australia...you just got to order them online...got 2 myself..<br />http://www.greenhouseone.com/Electronic-Cigarette-Starter-Kits-s/26.htm<br />they work very well and lots of people have them now....you cant buy them in a shop here, but they are not illegal at all...Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11462253223068422696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-42933919498368726322012-01-02T23:43:24.607+00:002012-01-02T23:43:24.607+00:00Junican, actually the liquid is not particularly c...Junican, actually the liquid is not particularly concentrated. The only question of purity is that the nicotine used is 99.9995% pure. Most e-cigarette liquids contain only a small percentage of (mostly pure--the other .0005% is the tobacco related nitrosamines the FDA warned you about) nicotine comparable to the percentage of nicotine in cigarette tobacco. However, because e-cigarettes are not lit on fire, most of the nicotine is not destroyed by combustion or lost to sidestream smoke so a single cartridge can replace 6 to 30+ cigarettes.The Devil's Thadvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365914932648272702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-68743489973477473252012-01-02T23:39:03.133+00:002012-01-02T23:39:03.133+00:00Respectability for e-cigs means tobacco and pharma...Respectability for e-cigs means tobacco and pharmaceuticals both would have to jump in on producing them and that would result in advertisements in MSM, including TV, that would feature adults puffing and blowing out something that looked like smoke. In a way, that might help put pressure against smoking bans. Might.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-65069199769271908032012-01-02T23:27:29.908+00:002012-01-02T23:27:29.908+00:00Why not make it look like a carrot?Why not make it look like a carrot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-50942424004488007192012-01-02T21:39:29.760+00:002012-01-02T21:39:29.760+00:00ASH ET AL missed a trick, didn't they? They sh...ASH ET AL missed a trick, didn't they? They should have been all for them, and when they had enough smokers on ecig, found ' a health problem' and withdrew suport. <br /><br />As it is, they have got themselves between a rock and a hard place.<br /><br />Good.<br /><br />But you vapers mustn't get your hopes up - even now the zealots will be looking for weak link. Quite possibly, it will be concentrated nature of the liquid and the possibility of a child drinking it. They will not let the fact that we all have bleaches and all sorts of concentrated poisons under our sinks deter them. The quack professors will be out in force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com