tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post3820773195671010279..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: For A Few Dollars MoreDick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-25810066848767557892011-05-31T22:33:22.508+01:002011-05-31T22:33:22.508+01:00You (the medics/govt.) want someone to quit smokin...You (the medics/govt.) want someone to quit smoking. Prescribe Champix, they kill themselves. One less smoker. Result!FrankCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-3642730747124123222011-05-30T23:11:38.175+01:002011-05-30T23:11:38.175+01:00Manu: Maybe not in the wider world, but another ex...Manu: Maybe not in the wider world, but another example of how the tobacco debate is unique. When talking of smokers and smoking, pharma are apparently inscrutable despite their well-documented abuses in every other sphere. <br /><br />Funny old world, innit? ;)Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-44736304298972756482011-05-30T22:41:39.317+01:002011-05-30T22:41:39.317+01:00"Whereas the pharmaceutical industry is perce..."Whereas the pharmaceutical industry is perceived as riding in on a pristine white thoroughbred, their righteous eyes gleaming with probity and rigour"<br /><br />This is not a perception that I would ever have said most people have about Big Pharma... Champix is just the latest in a growing list of drugs which should never been licensed (either at all or with clear safety warnings / contraindications).Manuhttp://forcefieldanalysis.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-23104230996031709492011-05-30T17:24:26.437+01:002011-05-30T17:24:26.437+01:00Two weeks of Champix nearly killed me.Two weeks of Champix nearly killed me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-40053396357872018722011-05-30T14:00:15.094+01:002011-05-30T14:00:15.094+01:00Perhaps if the government didn't get involved ...Perhaps if the government didn't get involved at all and let people smoke iof they wanted to etc....Single Acts of Tyrannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-51300315789842248552011-05-30T13:11:26.257+01:002011-05-30T13:11:26.257+01:00"But I guess when one is young, it seems very..."But I guess when one is young, it seems very easy to distinguish between right and wrong but as one gets older, it becomes more difficult – the villains and the heroes get all mixed up."<br /><br />René Mathis<br />Quantum of SolaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-11099971118240339252011-05-30T11:02:43.205+01:002011-05-30T11:02:43.205+01:00There's also the point that Big Pharma shares ...There's also the point that Big Pharma shares a spot with the tobacco companies for some. All those serial quitters who buy gum or patches for a bit and then go back to smoking before having another go a few months later are a real money spinner. The health campaigners, often funded by Big Pharma of course, have persuaded governments that the Quit Smoking industry's main opposition should no longer be able to advertise, on top of which they've also persuaded the government to spend lots of money - our money - on PSA ads nagging the smokers to quit as well as running their own ads.<br /><br />On top of that I don't think the products are any great shakes either. I tried patches twice (different brands) and gum once and I found both types of products to be a waste of money and valuable smoking time. When I did stop for good I went cold turkey and I found it was actually a lot easier. Can't help wondering if this might be deliberate because a smoker whose heart isn't in it and is nagged into trying to quit once or twice a year for a decade is a valued customer and the last thing you'd want to give him is something that'll make him quit first time.<br /><br />Except for the Niemöller-ish concerns of where the authoritarians will strike next I no longer have a dog in this fight, but I'd say Big Pharma are far worse than the tobacco industry. The addiction now is into thinking you need to quit and they're making a decent quid off it. At least the tobacco companies aren't pretending they're in business to do anything other than make money.Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-18413942869382263552011-05-30T09:13:13.430+01:002011-05-30T09:13:13.430+01:00René Mathis, in Quantum of Solace, said:
But ...René Mathis, in Quantum of Solace, said:<br /><br /> But I guess when one is young, it seems very easy to distinguish between right and wrong but as one gets older, it becomes more difficult – the villains and the heroes get all mixed up.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-24951068812714623242011-05-30T06:20:49.661+01:002011-05-30T06:20:49.661+01:00The Champix/Chantix fiasco is just the latest. The...The Champix/Chantix fiasco is just the latest. The pharmaceutical cartel makes the tobacco industry look saintly. Even more dangerous is when it partners with ideological (eugenics) interests in the medical establishment.<br /><br />More on Pharma/medical fraud:<br />http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014725669_johnsonbribe09.html<br />http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/05/14/BUGKK6L0LB1.DTL<br />http://www.fiercepharma.com/story/pfizer-slapped-medicaid-fraud-verdict/2009-02-18<br />http://www.fraud-insurance.net/020808/CriminalCharges.htm<br />http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202427912897<br />http://www.actupny.org/reports/Bangkok/pfizer-zap.html<br />http://www.uslaw.com/lawsuits/Pfizer,+Pharmacia?itemid=1139Magneticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-31863624408094034372011-05-30T06:12:27.248+01:002011-05-30T06:12:27.248+01:00The Champix/Chantix fiasco is just the latest. The...The Champix/Chantix fiasco is just the latest. The pharmaceutical cartel makes the tobacco industry look saintly. Even more dangerous is when it partners with ideological (eugenics) interests in the medical establishment.<br /><br />More on Pharma/medical fraud:<br />http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014725669_johnsonbribe09.html<br />http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/05/14/BUGKK6L0LB1.DTL<br />http://www.fiercepharma.com/story/pfizer-slapped-medicaid-fraud-verdict/2009-02-18<br />http://www.fraud-insurance.net/020808/CriminalCharges.htm<br />http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202427912897<br />http://www.actupny.org/reports/Bangkok/pfizer-zap.html<br />http://www.uslaw.com/lawsuits/Pfizer,+Pharmacia?itemid=1139<br />http://www.taf.org/publications/PDF/drug%20report.pdf<br />http://www.thestar.com/article/654423<br />http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/health/pharmfraud.html<br />http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/health/pharmgen.html<br />http://www.naturalnews.com/medical_fraud.html<br />http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s75297.htm<br />http://www.thenational.ae/article/20090517/NATIONAL/705169856/1138<br />http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/8-medical-fraud-costs-the-nation-100-billion-annually-or-more/<br />http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150209,00.htmlMagneticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-32529025644203632082011-05-30T05:09:34.688+01:002011-05-30T05:09:34.688+01:00While it knew of the horrific effects of Champix/C...While it knew of the horrific effects of Champix/Chantix, Pfizer has been developing a considerable market for its dangerous wares in Japan.<br />http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/04/business/global/04smoke.html?_r=1&src=buslnMagneticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-53530351953179301952011-05-30T03:37:43.688+01:002011-05-30T03:37:43.688+01:00(cont'd)
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Pha...(cont'd)<br /><br />http://www.opednews.com/articles/Pharmaceutical-Industry-an-by-K-L-Carlson-100727-454.html<br />http://www.ipqpubs.com/news/fda-extends-false-claims-act-to-gmp-violations-in-750-million-gsk-settlement/<br />http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/13/health/main6673320.shtml?tag=stack<br /><br />http://www.naturalnews.com/medical_fraud.html<br />http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/684982<br />http://www.douglassreport.com/dailydose/dd200805/dd20080509a.html<br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/17/national/main20032897.shtml?tag=stack<br />http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/78845.php<br />http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s75297.htm<br />http://www.thenational.ae/article/20090517/NATIONAL/705169856/1138<br />http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150209,00.htmlMagneticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-71332499272719916572011-05-30T02:59:54.445+01:002011-05-30T02:59:54.445+01:00The Labor Party in Australia, which has been respo...The Labor Party in Australia, which has been responsible for years of antismoking insanity and now wants to introduce a carbon tax, wants to the opposing Liberal Party to refuse Tobacco donations:<br /><br /><i>British American Tobacco (BAT) made political donations to just three countries last year.<br />Some $170,000 went to Australia, $1,550 was paid to Canada and $3,000 found its way to the Solomon Islands.<br />"Ninety-seven per cent of British American Tobacco's money is spent here on two parties - the Liberal Party and the National Party," Ms Roxon told parliament.<br />"And they are asking us to (believe) this has no influence on their decision on whether they are going to support plain packaging or not."</i><br /><br />The Labor Party is riding the “high horse” because, in contrast, its government takes its lead from the “honorable” Public Health cartel:<br /><br /><i> The health minister said the Gillard government was influenced by researchers, public health advocates, doctors groups, the Cancer Council and the Heart Foundation.</i><br />http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/big-tobacco-buying-influence-roxon/story-e6frfku0-1226063639476<br /><br />Then we wonder why we have serious problems!Magneticnoreply@blogger.com