tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post5630573025181219836..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: Mission Creep Spotted On The BBCDick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-20540019481086144402014-01-30T00:02:53.165+00:002014-01-30T00:02:53.165+00:00Can't disagree.
However this new form of to...Can't disagree. <br /><br /><br />However this new form of totalitarianism is Stalinist, so it is neo-Stalinist not neo-fascist.<br /><br /><br />The effect is the same though :)ChrisPrice4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-15009414194350813052014-01-29T11:36:22.103+00:002014-01-29T11:36:22.103+00:00Rather then exile them to the outdoors, I would ra...Rather then exile them to the outdoors, I would rather see them exiled to a little terrace abode and forced to live solely on state benefits for at least 3 years!<br />You never know, after that, they might come close to being fit for purpose!truckerlynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-15065188662686040182014-01-27T15:11:31.676+00:002014-01-27T15:11:31.676+00:00You thought the ITV program was balanced? Or was t...You thought the ITV program was balanced? Or was that sarcasm?Barry Freemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-63442173512736027822014-01-27T14:53:59.581+00:002014-01-27T14:53:59.581+00:00Here's a little snippet I just came across tha...Here's a little snippet I just came across that might interest you, DP:<br /><br />http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/01/27/banged-ogilvy-vice-president-and-ipa-chairman-arrives-home-after-spending-24-hours?utm_source=Interspire&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The+Drum+Afternoon+Newsletter+-+27th+Jan+2014<br /><br />Coincidentally, I flew to Bangkok with Qatar two weeks ago, and will be flying back with them in about two weeks time. How they can justify their stance on e-cigs, I have no idea. I posted a link (on FD's blog perhaps? I can't remember now) a few months ago about a girl who spent a week or so in a Qatari jail, got a big fine and was deported back to her point of origin for vaping on a Qatar flight. A horrifying tale. I still have the link, I think, but not on the laptop which I have with me - it will be on my desktop at home.<br /><br />It really beggars belief that such draconian punishments are being meted out for such a minor contravention of what is essentially a company policy rather than a law. One wonders where this world is heading...nisakimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-66706200439117730432014-01-27T05:13:45.324+00:002014-01-27T05:13:45.324+00:00What seems to me to be the saddest thing of all is...What seems to me to be the saddest thing of all is the silence of MPs. Has any MP actually written an article in a newspaper praising ecigs? There may be one or two, but the vast majority of MPs remain stubbornly silent. <br />Is that not another reason to believe that our democracy is 'not fit for purpose'? Our MPs dare not speak their minds, nor are they encouraged to do so, nor are they encouraged to swat up on relevant matters. MEPs are a little more independent, but not much. Even they are being corralled into groups. <br />I have no doubt that the criminally fascist 'Tobacco Control Directive' will be voted through very shortly. What should happen, after the May EU elections, is that the criminally fascist 'Tobacco Control Directive' should be immediately retracted in its entirety. It will not happen, but it would be good to know that our democracy is still alive. It seems that King Kong Jing Jang has murdered all his uncle's relatives and friends in North Korea - "LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!" What we need, in this country and the EU, is a similar clearing out of the 'old order' (without the machine guns, perhaps). Perhaps the interchangeable frauds, Cameron, Milliband and the boy Clegg, could be 'exiled to the outdoors'. <br />Perhaps Cameron should be replaced by Blackman, and Milliband replaced by Dianne Abbott, and the boy Clegg replaced by Stephen Williams. If that were so, ...... NOTHING WOULD CHANGE either for good or bad! It is a simple and obvious fact that the modern world is just to complex for any individual to have control of. Or rather, only restrictive control is possible. <br />I like the idea of the EU as a 'best practice' organisation. I hate it as a fascist, totalitarian regime.Junicannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-59288344513900374392014-01-27T01:56:51.424+00:002014-01-27T01:56:51.424+00:00Possibly the fact they recruit in The Guardian, an...Possibly the fact they recruit in The Guardian, and it's a public sector institution so very trusting of "health professionals" and third sector awfulness.V Halenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-87119245522198925482014-01-27T00:41:00.388+00:002014-01-27T00:41:00.388+00:00Hi Dick, thank you for your good work and this gre...Hi Dick, thank you for your good work and this great article but there is no e-cig ban in France, au contraire! 1800 shops have opened in the last 3 years. In the Greater Paris Area alone there are currently 369 vape shops http://www.vapoguide.fr/annuaire/?region=ile-de-france . I am not French but I visit often and am amazed by how big the scene is there. Furtermore the French government is the only entity that seems to be willing to listen to the vaping industry's advocates, http://www.aiduce.fr/aiduce-sollicitee-pour-construire-lavenir-national-de-la-cigarette-electronique/ (scroll down for English version). Therefore I think the French are instrumental to us, they also have a history of not bowing to the financial interests of foreign companies.Jan Dehaenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-11119099194599968482014-01-27T00:06:12.524+00:002014-01-27T00:06:12.524+00:00One other thing that bugs me Dick is why are the B...One other thing that bugs me Dick is why are the BBC so rabidly anti-ecig? We know why Big T, Big P, and many of the special interest groups are (money of course) but I am wondering just why the BBC have such a negative stance.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-3919643967517846032014-01-27T00:00:51.268+00:002014-01-27T00:00:51.268+00:00The first edition of the story I read this morning...The first edition of the story I read this morning didn't have a quote from Katherine Devlin either, suggesting she was an afterthought while health groups were consulted beforehand for a quote by way of embargoed press releases. Forest have complained about that type of exclusion by the BBC for years, so it's interesting that the same tactics are being used against e-cigs.Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-71426978836070524592014-01-26T23:53:47.881+00:002014-01-26T23:53:47.881+00:00You are spot-on with regards to Richard Warry.
A...You are spot-on with regards to Richard Warry.<br /><br /><br />Actually his statement has been edited if I'm not mistaken, it had a bit in there at the end after where he is talking about "sketchy evidence that they work." It also said something about it leading children to take up smoking after having tried ecigs, or words to that effect.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-79094770424550611552014-01-26T23:46:09.723+00:002014-01-26T23:46:09.723+00:00I think we vapers tend to get a bit of tunnel visi...I think we vapers tend to get a bit of tunnel vision and expect rather more than we're ever going to get on mainstream TV - I was expecting a total hatchet job and it didn't happen. I loved the guy with terminal cancer enjoying himself, I was saddened by the inclusion of the poor lady trying to apportion blame for her husband's death - but having lost my own husband I know that this is what we do. I could have smacked the silly woman on the school run, but am concerned that they keep dragging in a list of countries that have banned e-cigs; they do not ban cigarettes and if you examine them it seems that most have a thriving tobacco industry - good luck to them, but please explain that it is protectionism. Vendors are reporting an upswing in sales since the prog, so it couldn't have been that bad.Dragonmumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-13512747364825318282014-01-26T23:06:12.567+00:002014-01-26T23:06:12.567+00:00No, it wasn't sarcasm. I thought it the best w...No, it wasn't sarcasm. I thought it the best we've seen from a mainstream broadcaster yet, and that's been proven with the BBC's shite today. <br /><br /><br />Thanks for posting that link, it's great but France has an e-cig ban, we don't. Lord knows why when there is so much support there, but I suspect it could be that France has its share of paid liars too but they just weren't shown.<br /><br /><br />And yes, there were paid liars in the ITV show, but that's the state of play we are at. Gerard Hastings' contribution was immediately rubbished by an ASA statement, and it's clear that the lipoid pneumonia case was overplayed, but at least ITV pointed out that it was not replicated anywhere else so was an absurd outlier. <br /><br /><br />I didn't watch the ITV show on the night as I was expecting it to be a hatchet job after seeing Choi on VTTV. I was surprised when our office anti-smoker asked me if I'd watched it and told me how the prog had rubbished all the silly claims by those wanting them banned. From being ambivalent, she was converted to being in support of e-cigs. That said to me that the paid liars didn't achieve their aim. ;)Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-15048947674843350982014-01-26T22:45:07.874+00:002014-01-26T22:45:07.874+00:00Hi Dick. I assume your first sentence is sarcasm b...Hi Dick. I assume your first sentence is sarcasm because Choi's ecig prog was a shite concoction of knocking copy worthy of Glantz or some other paid liar. It featured paid liars whose lies were emphasised repeatedly.<br /><br />What it should have looked like is this, from France:<br /><br />http://www.euronews.com/2014/01/24/smoking-out-the-facts-of-electronic-cigarettes/<br /><br /><br /><br />This is 'balanced', because the truth is given by almost all the officials quoted with just one or two examples of ignorance/corruption. And don't those French shops look nice.ChrisPrice4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-21617666022584365512014-01-26T21:53:18.350+00:002014-01-26T21:53:18.350+00:00Probably repeating it - but just saw this:
http:/...Probably repeating it - but just saw this:<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10597446/E-cigarettes-to-be-banned-for-under-18s.html<br /><br />DOH : "This measure is designed to help protect children"<br /><br />Can't stop themselves going too long without banning something it seems....moonrakinnoreply@blogger.com