tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post6335810582784752044..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: Another Big (Day)Break For E-CigsDick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-86059984509257398412011-10-13T20:36:42.345+01:002011-10-13T20:36:42.345+01:00David I do agree that 'false' science and ...David I do agree that 'false' science and propaganda is responsible for changing peoples established attitudes. At some point the general public will become wise to this manipulation, but until they do, I 'smoke' legally in pubs.<br /><br />If the wo(man) in the street wants to fight the smoking ban, I will support them BUT I'm buggered if I'm going to stand in the freezing cold when it is p@ssing down with rain, when I can have an ecig inside and join in the pub banter.<br /><br />Russell VR OrdCampaign for Vaping in Pubshttp://camvip.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-15761333970474165702011-10-13T20:31:27.660+01:002011-10-13T20:31:27.660+01:00I might add that I don't really have a problem...I might add that I don't really have a problem with e fags (other than stated above). In fact, I have used several different kinds myself. They are excellent for those those wishing to cut down or even quit smoking. And generally cheaper, with no duty payable to those who take great pleasure in persecuting us. They certainly have a role to play, but I'm not comfortable that their use in pubs reduces to chances of getting an amendment to the blanket ban.davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-36762091807971511312011-10-13T20:17:04.606+01:002011-10-13T20:17:04.606+01:00Russell, do you accept the passive smoking studies...Russell, do you accept the passive smoking studies that were used to enable the smoking ban? ECCA don't appear to have much of an opinion about this. But for some of us, this lies at the heart of why the ban is unnecessary. And why some of us are not over keen to see e fags being promoted as an alternative to real cigarettes inside pubs.davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-47982141324553211552011-10-13T13:22:51.266+01:002011-10-13T13:22:51.266+01:00@ david
The Campaign for Vaping in Pubs makes NO ...@ david<br /><br />The Campaign for Vaping in Pubs makes NO money from selling ecigs - in fact it does not make money,,,it is a passion of mine as a smoker who harks back to the good old days of community pubs.<br /><br />ECCA is a recently formed consumer association that I have been roped into being vice-chair and treasurer of the steering committee. I am a consumer of ecigs and eliquid and I want to make sure that we are not getting ripped off by any dodgy vendors out there. Again, I put in a lot of work for no money.<br /><br />If smokers want to pick a fight with me, then bring it on because I've got nothing to hide and I am not a businessman, I'm just a smoker who vapes and I want the best for nicotine users of all types and of course, The Great British Pubs.<br /><br />Russell VR OrdCampaign for Vaping in Pubshttp://camvip.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-63136521070624687992011-10-13T10:01:19.923+01:002011-10-13T10:01:19.923+01:00When I choose to smoke in my home, guests put with...When I choose to smoke in my home, guests put with it or piss off.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-53096417975965697552011-10-13T02:02:58.428+01:002011-10-13T02:02:58.428+01:00A word of support for Dr Hillary Jones, if I was g...A word of support for Dr Hillary Jones, if I was gay I would shag him. No, seriously, this guy is sound as a pound. He is not afraid to be realistic, and is prepared, and ready, to say things which he knows could be controversial. I remember reading an article of his in the Express, supporting the benefits of sunshine. Yes, that is correct, he said that 30 to 45 minutes of unprotected exposure to strong sunshine was good for you, then cover up.<br /><br />I love this guy, but I am not gay and neither is he, so it remains philial.<br /><br />FOOTNOTE: I reckon if me and Hill were socialising in my front room, (not the back room), and I wanted a smoke, he would say go ahead, it does not bother him, (ie SHS).timbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06985165416240833253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-27274294765105806212011-10-12T23:05:52.056+01:002011-10-12T23:05:52.056+01:00Real ale and fake fags....ludicrous.
'Stay i...Real ale and fake fags....ludicrous. <br /><br />'Stay inside night' is clearly an e fag marketing stunt. Cashing in, some might say...<br /><br />This<br /><br />http://www.eccauk.org/ <br /><br />is registered to the address on the CAM-VIP site<br /><br />'ECCA is the single most important stakeholder in tobacco harm reduction in the UK.'davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-81175435417786883942011-10-12T22:04:22.607+01:002011-10-12T22:04:22.607+01:00"Another Big (Day)Break For E-Cigs"
Or a..."Another Big (Day)Break For E-Cigs"<br />Or another step away from ever having the choice to smoke tobacco in a pub(and perhaps towards smoking anywhere)again? Yes lets have plastic fag nights in pubs too, just to make sure the pub industry never support real choice again. Nice too for Dr Hilary to be able promote the idea that smokers are really just nicotine addicts needing a (neat nicotine)fix. Whereas normal smoking of course has no benefits whatsoever. ASH are probably quietly pissing themselves.<br />Smokers who promote vaping might want to think back to CAMRA supporting the smoking ban. Using e-cig is of course up to the individual, but promoting the vaping cause while campaigning against smoking prohibition is frankly,nuts.<br />AndyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-22430326380537919232011-10-12T18:48:12.139+01:002011-10-12T18:48:12.139+01:00Cigs never caused me a rosy red nicotine rash. Nic...Cigs never caused me a rosy red nicotine rash. Nicotine patches caused me a blistering red rash. Nicotine gum and lozenges, if I'd take too much of it, resulted in red rash starting up in a few spots on my body. Started using the e-cig with 18mg nicotine and the damn thing was so powerful it caused a red nicotine rash worse than what the patches caused which came in direct contact with the skin. It might be that for some people there's going to be an allergic reaction to pure nicotine intake by ecig, which is similar to snorting crack-cocaine vapor than it is to smoking natural herbal tobacco. That may be one down-side the vaping industry is trying to hide but anectdotally, I know it's the cause of rash for myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-6905745974553432712011-10-12T17:50:56.727+01:002011-10-12T17:50:56.727+01:00I don't have a problem with e-cigs unless I am...I don't have a problem with e-cigs unless I am forced to use them and I fear by describing them as an "alternative to smoking" that one day I will be - especially if the media establishment and Govt is pushing them as a good thing.<br /><br /> They are, of course, " a good thing" but not if one day tobacco consumers have no choice but to use them. If vapers stand by us - as too many do not - I will stand by them. <br /> Judgement reserved for nowPat Nurse MAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01591807335364002658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-66369249863075051052011-10-12T17:04:25.130+01:002011-10-12T17:04:25.130+01:00As S Nolan says, the eGo or Tornado (interchangeab...As S Nolan says, the eGo or Tornado (interchangeable) are pretty good. Or mine is, anyway. But that's my opinion - some like 'em, others don't, we can't all be the same no matter how much the government keeps thinking we are. ;)Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-38387875001429348832011-10-12T16:33:56.846+01:002011-10-12T16:33:56.846+01:00@Frank
Ecigs were cr@p when I started smoking the...@Frank<br /><br />Ecigs were cr@p when I started smoking them (vaping) over 2 years ago, but as with all technology, they are improving all the time.<br /><br />However, nothing beats the smell of a good old cigar or a briar full of pipe tobacco :)Campaign for Vaping in Pubshttp://camvip.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-4564785017726037882011-10-12T16:10:37.330+01:002011-10-12T16:10:37.330+01:00Crap e-cigs are crap. Get a decent 510, eGo, etc &...Crap e-cigs are crap. Get a decent 510, eGo, etc "personal vaporizer" and as an ex pack-a-day smoker my anecdotal evidence is they kick butt.S. Nolanhttp://smokescreen.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-28515120235747788162011-10-12T15:35:23.193+01:002011-10-12T15:35:23.193+01:00Forget to mention, Vaping pubs or no, e-cigs are s...Forget to mention, Vaping pubs or no, e-cigs are still crap!Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-4060718426458111282011-10-12T15:33:41.763+01:002011-10-12T15:33:41.763+01:00Old Bannatyne seems a very happy wee chappie. Has ...Old Bannatyne seems a very happy wee chappie. Has he got anything good to say about anything? Feel bloody sorry for his family - if he's still got any. Ah, yes, his Father died of LC and he's carried that cross ever since, poor soul.<br /><br />Well, Dougie, old son, my Mother, God bless her, died of LC at 85, smoked all her life and enjoyed it. We have no cross to bear. Pity you have.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-3662912598893576232011-10-12T12:45:19.106+01:002011-10-12T12:45:19.106+01:00Tonight is the first 'Stay Inside' VIP Nig...Tonight is the first 'Stay Inside' VIP Night where smokers are encouraged to stay inside the pub and use FREE ecigs. If the night is a success, CAM-VIP hopes to roll them out nation wide. It is another strand of the ecig awareness campaigns out there - BUT this one is not trying to sell ecigs, it is just trying to sell traditional pubs back to smokers!<br /><br /><i>"If you live in South Yorkshire, smoke and like a pint - leave your fags at home this evening and come along to The Anglers Rest, Wombwell, from 7pm, where I'll give you the cigs to smoke all night - for FREE - and you will not even have to go outside to enjoy them as they are legal to smoke in public places!<br /><br />The Anglers Rest is Wombwell's only entry in CAMRA's 2012 'Good Beer Guide' - come along and see why it is :)<br /><br />The Campaign for Vaping in Pubs"</i><br /><br />More information can be found in the news section of the CAM-VIP website.<br /><br />Russell VR OrdCampaign for Vaping in Pubshttp://camvip.webs.comnoreply@blogger.com