tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post8534183115456099955..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: Allez Les Buralistes Français! Dick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-75456168111570278312015-07-23T14:01:22.736+01:002015-07-23T14:01:22.736+01:00Politicians are making themselves redundant becaus...Politicians are making themselves redundant because of their attitudes to what is termed "public health".gray coopernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-58540097528375193382015-07-23T13:08:13.153+01:002015-07-23T13:08:13.153+01:00It's the imposition, using "evidence"...It's the imposition, using "evidence" generated by cnuts whose sole aim in life is to hollow out public funds to feed their specialty - and that specialty increasing is being seen to be lies, conflation and BS - dressed up a "science". Arguments from authority dotting the Ts and crossing the Is along the way.<br /><br /><br />The absence of just rewards for these gits and their apparently unrestrained access to your taxes have to be addressed - they will not stop at 'baccy as we can see at the moment - <i>almost anything</i> can be deemed unhealthy and in need of regulation and continuous investigation by these parasites. .moonrakinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-87686022841772721672015-07-23T09:17:43.253+01:002015-07-23T09:17:43.253+01:00Vapers should have expected this. When the science...Vapers should have expected this. When the science behind Tobacco Control is junk, then it is junk. Taking that 'science' to trample all over smokers in order to be accepted by the Establishment has led them into a cul de sac. Personally, I hope they get out of their predicament. I just hope they're don't trample all over smokers again in the attempt.RooBeeDoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-64538996709456717102015-07-22T23:49:09.099+01:002015-07-22T23:49:09.099+01:00Unusual.... but there it is....
The Daily Mail of...Unusual.... but there it is....<br /><br />The Daily Mail of all places running a health scare story with closed comments - who'dah thunk it eh?<br /><br />Wonder what its about.... <br /><br /><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3171371/E-cigarettes-just-addictive-real-thing-mislabeled-researchers-warn.html" rel="nofollow">Do go take a look......</a>moonrakinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-54884522417251550112015-07-22T23:30:50.730+01:002015-07-22T23:30:50.730+01:002.
We have people that have no problem sitting at...2.<br /><br />We have people that have no problem sitting at a restaurant dining table with lit candles atop. They have no problem sitting next to an open indoor fire place. They have no problem with the smoke coming from the restaurant kitchen. Yet if someone lights a cigarette, in come the headache, the sweats, and the histrionics. That sounds like an anxiety disorder where they’ve come to believe that cigarette smoke is incredibly different to other forms of typically encountered smoke and aligned with fear.<br /><br /> People with anxiety disorders experience actual physical symptoms such as headache, dizziness, chest palpitations, dry throat, nausea. But these physical symptoms are psychogenic, i.e., they are psychologically mediated, usually through irrational belief. So someone who’s been manipulated into<br />capnophobia (smokephobia) around smoke will start sweating, feel nausea, etc, and they’re convinced that it’s being caused by the smoke. It isn’t. It’s being<br />caused by their irrational beliefs about smoke that have been fostered by State-sponsored prohibitionists posing as “health advocates”.<br /><br /> So, my conclusion would be that most people that have problems with smoke have a psychological issue(s). It’s something that such people don’t like hearing because they usually haven’t spent too much time examining and scrutinizing what goes on in their minds and especially when the disorder is depicted as normal. To such people I’d say it’s time to look within. Let go of anger; let go of condemning thoughts; let go of obsessions with control; let go of attack thoughts. That‘s a start. It takes some work<br />particularly when we’ve never applied ourselves to the task. Clear your mind of the clutter and fear (and the physical symptoms of fear) typically drops away<br />as well.What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-91928315664828562472015-07-22T23:21:09.071+01:002015-07-22T23:21:09.071+01:001.
With all due respect, Bill, there’s a critical...1.<br /><br />With all due respect, Bill, there’s a critical problem with what you’ve just said. As is the case with antismokers, they typically disregard their own involvement in their problem, having a back-to-front version of causation.<br /><br /> I can accept that there are some, a very, very small group – a rarity, that cannot handle smoke given their physical constitution. But that’s where their problem is – with their physical constitution. Most people, a normative range, have no problem with smoke. They don’t get headaches or anything else. So it’s you who is carrying some abnormality. Your system can’t do what a normally functioning system can do. And that’s if your problem is physical. But, you’ll note that you depict your headaches as “caused” by smoke as if this a general propensity of smoke. It’s not. It’s your system that’s the problem.<br /><br /> A few decades of antismoking hysteria promoted as “science” has opened another Pandora’s Box of psychosomatic problems, an issue of mental<br />health. Given that there’s a gullible portion of the population that absorbs the inflammatory propaganda, they are now suffering anxiety disorders, hypochondria, somatization. There are now those that walk about with hand cupped over mouth fearing that a whiff of smoke will drop them dead on the spot. There are others that believe that they’re “allergic” to tobacco smoke. Yet there are no allergens (proteins) in tobacco smoke to be allergic to. People waving their hands, hand cupped over mouth, “oh I can’t handle the smoke”, etc, were unheard of a few decades ago. It’s a recent phenomenon that’s been produced by the nut cases of Public Health.What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-82657521551765182552015-07-22T23:12:23.321+01:002015-07-22T23:12:23.321+01:00Beautifully put, DP. Inspired.Beautifully put, DP. Inspired.What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-19949983425757014422015-07-22T23:00:37.720+01:002015-07-22T23:00:37.720+01:00So can you explain why smokefree laws are required...So can you explain why smokefree laws are required for somewhere which has, always will be, and has always described itself as being, a cigar bar? <br /><br /><br />That is nothing more than bullying by tobacco control. It is entirely unnecessary.<br /><br /><br />Talk to the majority and they will tell you that a system of smoking and non-smoking establishments is perfectly acceptable. TCI's insistence on having not only EVERY pub, bar and restaurant, but also the outside of them, social housing, and parks, beaches and even the North bloody Pole, is why they should never be taken seriously. <br /><br /><br />This, for a threat which is inconsequential at best, and fundamentally fraudulent at worst INSIDE. Outside it is non-existent.<br /><br /><br />It's a cult, it needs to be curtailed hugely and people should be in prison for the damage they have done on the economy and society in general. The assault on e-cigs and THR in general stems exclusively from this appalling deception. <br /><br /><br />In the UK, they are now talking about outdoor smoking bans for prisons where over 80% of inmates smoke, and also for mental health institutions where I'd say a blanket ban (indoors and outdoors) is nothing else but legalised torture.<br /><br /><br />If one prisoner punches a prison warden in the face, the UK govt will be responsible for more harm than prisoners smoking have ever inflicted in the history of the penal system. If just one mental health patient self harms because of tobacco controllers, the same applies.<br /><br /><br />I will concede that a market has a place for non-smoking facilities, and even reluctantly that it might require legislation to support those who wish to provide it (seeing as prior to bans the smart money was on the majority who really don't find it an issue). I will, however, never accept that it is right that every single pub, bar and restaurant should be entirely smokefree and under the threat of eye-watering fines, policed not by the state but by the property owner. Especially since tobacco control actively sprints away from any hint of technological solutions such as ventilation and - in the case of vending machines - credit card or biometric ID systems. Again, the same could be said for TCI's rdiculous rejection of vaping as a techno solution. It's a crock.<br /><br /><br />Sorry, but 100% smoking bans are indefensible and have led to the morass of ignorance and panic over THR. You can't defend one while supporting the other.Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-9000653681784634172015-07-22T22:34:55.658+01:002015-07-22T22:34:55.658+01:00Hopefully this is the start of a global movement t...Hopefully this is the start of a global movement to push back on tobacco control, including plain packages, smoking bans, and excessive taxes. The next frontier in smoking bans should be their repeal.Vinny Gracchusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-29836046389684042822015-07-22T22:05:57.835+01:002015-07-22T22:05:57.835+01:00Merci bien. Mais pourquoi ne pas les soutenir? Il ...Merci bien. Mais pourquoi ne pas les soutenir? Il est de votre avenir si 'public health' ne sont pas arrêtés.Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-22603753524225867762015-07-22T20:46:32.651+01:002015-07-22T20:46:32.651+01:00Hello Dick, I'm not sure (c'est une "...Hello Dick, I'm not sure (c'est une "litote") that french vapers support the tobacconist lobby... <br />Anyhow, bravo pour le français (with the "c cédille") !Randallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-70348836998643099452015-07-22T20:45:15.054+01:002015-07-22T20:45:15.054+01:00“Perhaps anonymous can point to any law (or legal
...<i>“Perhaps anonymous can point to any law (or legal<br />theory) that allows someone (or groups of people) to involuntarily force something harmful into another human being (without that person's consent).”</i><br /><br /> Bill, from my comments above, you seem to have never<br />considered that the “harm” you speak of regarding smoke is coming from you, either physically or psychologically. Your system is not doing what a normally functioning system can do. It’s therefore up to you to avoid, as best you can,<br />situations you can’t handle. Public policy is usually anchored to a normative range of functioning, not abnormalities, although contemporary Public Health has been anchoring policy to abnormality, a very sickly thing to do. If we ban<br />things based on what people with abnormalities can’t handle, we would have the majority of the population which is normally functioning forced to conduct themselves as if they have multiple abnormalities. It’s a recipe for social<br />implosion.<br /><br /> Further, you may want to look into some basic chemistry. You’ll find that tobacco smoke isn’t too different to air generally.What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-15022028860688952022015-07-22T20:42:30.819+01:002015-07-22T20:42:30.819+01:00DP, I have a comment that has gotten caught somewh...DP, I have a comment that has gotten caught somewhere in the system.<br />Thanks.What the....noreply@blogger.com