tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post9181747561242968834..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: More Tobacco Control 'Science By Press Release'Dick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-86821098504898748912011-01-26T21:12:30.101+00:002011-01-26T21:12:30.101+00:00SadButMadLad @ 13:48.
The name has been changed b...SadButMadLad @ 13:48. <br />The name has been changed but research into "cold fusion" is ongoing. I read recently that some researchers, in Italy I think, used 400w of input power to generate 12kw of heat, so not cold, but very impressively hot.FrankCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-42020772057229947432011-01-25T20:17:00.688+00:002011-01-25T20:17:00.688+00:00When a good proportion of the general public say t...When a good proportion of the general public say that they don't want to eat genetically modified food because it has genes in it then you know you need to start some distance back in the their education.<br /><br />When the general public can understand basic science then it will be harder for certain groups to blind them with science.SadButMadLadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17836368722377421009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-52550758893820317212011-01-25T19:45:21.170+00:002011-01-25T19:45:21.170+00:00I settled down to watch the Horizon programme yest...I settled down to watch the Horizon programme yesterday with something of a sense of optimistic anticipation. At last the scientific community might have a chance to rescue its erstwhile excellent reputation and give the politicians, biased lobby groups and the MSM a bit of a public rollocking for bringing their profession into such disrepute purely for their own ends.<br /><br />What a disappointment! I confess that I turned it over half-way through, because, far from addressing the original question – <i>why</i> had people lost their faith in science? – the programme seemed purely to be trying to convince the public that they were wrong to have done so. I particularly liked the way they interviewed the NASA scientist surrounded by all his very impressive-looking, data-collecting, interactive video screens, but then interviewed the “climate change denier” over a cup of tea in a café off the local high street. It was as if they were saying “Look at the NASA man. He’s got all these <i>gadgets</i>. He <i>must</i> be right!” And then, immediately after that, they had the cheek make very pointed references to “cherry picking” data! Talk about pot calling the kettle black!! <br /><br />Maybe if I’d sat through the whole thing they would have got around to doing what they could perfectly easily have done in the first place, and which would have answered the question posed in the title of the programme – i.e. simply stopped people in the street and asked them why they viewed pretty much all new scientific pronouncements these days with such scepticism. But my blood pressure couldn’t wait that long, and I’d be happy to bet my bottom dollar that they didn’t do any such thing, not even right at the end. <br /><br />Yes, Subrosa. Desperation indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-40873958160853429042011-01-25T19:34:48.460+00:002011-01-25T19:34:48.460+00:00You don’t even need the appearance of “science”.
...You don’t even need the appearance of “science”.<br /><br /><b>A new study is urging lawmakers not to let science get in the way of sound policy when it comes to laws on children's exposure to secondhand smoke in cars.</b><br /><br />http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/Science%20shouldn%20stand%20sound%20smoking%20policy%20study/4086184/story.htmlMagneticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-2740785850672005572011-01-25T18:34:22.330+00:002011-01-25T18:34:22.330+00:00Dick
Do you have any idea of the authors and the ...Dick<br /><br />Do you have any idea of the authors and the title of the paper and where it was to be published? It's just possible I might be able to nose around ... It's a long shot, though.<br /><br />AlanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-72859769817601198802011-01-25T15:45:38.146+00:002011-01-25T15:45:38.146+00:00Thanks for another excellent post exposing the dev...Thanks for another excellent post exposing the devious nature of the anti-tobacco industry.<br /><br />Thanks also for reminding us of the mendacity of the public health protagonists and of Mr Kevin Barron. The fact that these professional liars continue to be funded from our taxes is a disgrace. At least we can blame the people of Rother Valley for re-electing Barron. I am not sure what Glasgow universities’excuse is.<br /><br />Anyone who wants to follow up on Scottish heart attacks can do so using the official government data published here<br /><br /> http://www.isdscotland.org/isd/5779.html<br /><br />Give or take 5 days in March 2006, for Acute Coronary Syndrome I calculate:<br /><br />12 months pre ban 7905<br />0-12 months post ban 7250<br />12-24 months post ban 8913<br />24-36 months post ban 7707<br /><br />No real miracle there then but it doesn’t stop the anti-tobacco industry continuing to refer to the Glasgow study as if it and its authors possessed some kind of integrity. <br /><br />The lack of integrity throughout public health is contributing to the undermining of belief in science in general even though much of the “junk” health science is not produced by scientists.Ivan Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364023294207490403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-23011245432941113872011-01-25T15:39:55.148+00:002011-01-25T15:39:55.148+00:00Yes specially as they wheeled out head warmist Ros...Yes specially as they wheeled out head warmist Rose.<br />The royal society may end up a laughing stock due to this in a few years ,bit like the Met office and it's ex WWF director.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-72956413637759932122011-01-25T14:55:35.755+00:002011-01-25T14:55:35.755+00:00Did you see the Horizon programme Dick? It smacke...Did you see the Horizon programme Dick? It smacked of desperation. 'You've got to believe me, I'm the boss of the RA' type of propaganda.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-40841546425827261822011-01-25T14:18:59.527+00:002011-01-25T14:18:59.527+00:00"It also revealed the levels of harmful parti..."It also revealed the levels of harmful particulates inside smokers’ cars are comparable to breathing in air in a large industrial city during a major smog event."<br /><br />Like this?<br /><br />"More people died in 2002 from passive smoking at work in the UK than were killed by the Great London smog of 1952"<br />James Repace<br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2925633.stm<br /><br />Oh really?<br /><br />"To cover up the true extent of the smog disaster the government invented an influenza epidemic. <br />In fact research has shown there was no epidemic and that the thousands more people who continued to die for the next four months did so because of the air pollution."<br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,850909,00.html<br /><br /><br />Fear of political embarrassment led to government cover up of link between air pollution and lung cancer<br /><br />"Delegates attending an international conference in London today to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Great London Smog of 1952, which caused an estimated 12,000 deaths, will hear how governments from the late 50s onwards deliberately downplayed the huge threat to public health caused by air pollution, and sought to shift the blame firmly onto cigarette smoking instead"<br />http://www.lshtm.ac.uk/news/2002/smogpollution.html <br /><br />"Doll pioneered the argument that cancer is caused by smoking, a view contested by environmentalists who point to the dangers of pollution"<br />http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/lung-cancer-pioneer-was-on-chemical-firms-payroll-427609.html<br /><br />RoseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-13990434146250977152011-01-25T14:11:07.015+00:002011-01-25T14:11:07.015+00:00Thanks for another excellent post exposing the dev...Thanks for another excellent post exposing the devious nature of the anti-tobacco industry.<br /><br />Thanks also for once again bringing to our attention the mendacity of Jill Pell and Kevin Barron. The fact that both of these professional liars continue to be funded from our taxes is a national disgrace. At least we can blame the people of Rother Valley for re-electing Barron. I am not sure what Glasgow universitie's excuse is for Pell.<br /><br />Anyone who wants to follow up on Scottish heart attacks can do so using the official government data published here http://www.isdscotland.org/isd/5779.html<br /><br />Give or take 5 days in March 2006, for Acute Coronary Syndrome (Pell’s preference)I calculate:<br /><br />12 months pre ban 7905<br />0-12 months post ban 7250<br />12-24 months post ban 8913<br />24-36 months post ban 7707<br /><br />No real miracle there then but it doesn’t stop the anti-tobacco industry continuing to refer to Pell as if her work had some kind of integrity. <br /><br />The lack of integrity throughout public health is contributing to the undermining of belief in science even though the protagonists are often not actually scientists. Pell is a non practicing medic which is definitely not the same thing.Ivan Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364023294207490403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-30822412890201250602011-01-25T13:48:59.788+00:002011-01-25T13:48:59.788+00:00Last time the results of a research project were p...Last time the results of a research project were published before being peer reviewed or published in a journal was with cold fusion - and look at where that went.SadButMadLadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17836368722377421009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-83695897484739936102011-01-25T13:09:55.286+00:002011-01-25T13:09:55.286+00:00Perhaps its time to start releasing our own 'r...Perhaps its time to start releasing our own 'research' such as:<br />'Clear proof that smoking protects from cancer.'<br />The fact that we have no evidence seems to have no bearing these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com