tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post1441463544925599236..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: Consensus Gives Lunatics WingsDick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-17336916918080944942011-11-12T19:47:16.479+00:002011-11-12T19:47:16.479+00:00Late to the party here, but here's a comment f...Late to the party here, but here's a comment from Andy on 4 November at 17:13:<br /><br />'The more children are exposed to the sight of people smoking, the more they will think it normal behaviour. By reducing their exposure to smokers, you remove the risk of them becoming harmonised with the concept of smoking. Those of you who are defending smoking really have no concept of just how much contempt the majority of todays civilized society has for your addiction.'<br /><br />Andy likes the concept of denormalisation. <br /><br />ChurchmouseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-8182696483179514532011-11-09T19:39:14.491+00:002011-11-09T19:39:14.491+00:00If I were an elector of Cumberland or Westmorland ...If I were an elector of Cumberland or Westmorland I would be asking how much it costs to run and why they need the 'Health & Wellbeing Scrutiny Committee' of which this pointy eared pillock is the chairman.The Travelling Toperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959982712137149288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-38326423934265385482011-11-09T11:28:33.365+00:002011-11-09T11:28:33.365+00:00Ok, now it has to be official - the lunatics reall...Ok, now it has to be official - the lunatics really are running the asylum!Lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090967182504400137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-56861663475792990892011-11-09T11:28:16.763+00:002011-11-09T11:28:16.763+00:00"Play areas may be outdoors but they are encl..."Play areas may be outdoors but they are enclosed by barriers or railings."<br /><br /><br />It's not supposed to make sense.<br /><br />We are the unwilling subjects of one of the new social denormalisation strategies.<br /><br /><br />Markers of the denormalisation of smoking and the tobacco industry<br /><br />Denormalisation<br /><br />"However, internationally, the term is also used to encompass efforts challenging notions that smoking ought to be regarded as routine or normal, particularly in public settings.<br /><br />Hammond et al state that "social denormalisation" strategies seek "to change the broad social norms around using tobacco—to push tobacco use out of the charmed circle of normal, desirable practice to being an abnormal practice".<br /><br />Several authors have suggested that Erving Goffman’s classic analysis of stigma and its resultant "spoiled identity" is consonant with how the meaning of smoking has changed in societies with widespread tobacco control.<br /><br />Goffman described stigmatisation as the transformation "from a whole and usual person to a tainted, discounted one", writing that "Stigma is a process by which the reaction of others spoils normal identity".<br />Chapman<br /><br /><br />Look that one up and it will give you the general idea.<br /><br />It should also give you a head start on the next ones.<br /><br /><br />Post Normal Science<br /><br />"In the sorts of issue-driven science relating to the protection of health and the environment, typically facts are uncertain, values in dispute, stakes high, and decisions urgent. <br /><br />The traditional distinction between ‘hard’, objective scientific facts and ‘soft’, subjective value-judgements is now inverted. <br /><br />All too often, we must make hard policy decisions where our only scientific inputs are irremediably soft. <br />The requirement for the “sound science” that is frequently invoked as necessary for rational policy decisions may affectively conceal value-loadings that determine research conclusions and policy recommendations. <br /><br />In these new circumstances, invoking ‘truth’ as the goal of science is a distraction, or even a diversion from real tasks. <br /><br />A more relevant and robust guiding principle is quality, understood as a contextual property of scientific information."<br /><br />Let's hope they don't start using it to design anything mechanical. <br /><br /><br />RoseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-82387062011338374362011-11-09T09:56:44.530+00:002011-11-09T09:56:44.530+00:00"Play areas may be outdoors but they are encl..."Play areas may be outdoors but they are enclosed by barriers or railings."<br /><br />But railings are designed to stop things so they will surely keep the smoke in.Woodsy42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355671210161625647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-54182110752187161922011-11-09T06:37:28.170+00:002011-11-09T06:37:28.170+00:00Play areas may be outdoors but they are enclosed b...<i>Play areas may be outdoors but they are enclosed by barriers or railings.</i><br /><br />In other words not enclosed in any real sense, you epic twat.Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-70868115939519330872011-11-09T05:27:15.383+00:002011-11-09T05:27:15.383+00:00"Play areas may be outdoors but they are encl...<i>"Play areas may be outdoors but they are enclosed by barriers or railings."</i><br /><br />Barriers and railings that keep in both the children AND the cigarette smoke?<br /><br />Wow! I want some of what he's smoki..<br /><br />Oh.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-86605338649565187472011-11-09T00:04:22.280+00:002011-11-09T00:04:22.280+00:00Blimey, makes the Nottingham lot sound quite sane ...Blimey, makes the Nottingham lot sound quite sane with their shiny new playground/school gate voluntary ban-you-will-comply-with. Is it just me, btw, or did the BBC ever include 'balance' from FOREST before with no mention of ASH at all?<br /><br />"Nottingham City Council said a play area smoking ban would help protect children from potential health problems<br /><br />A local authority has become the first in the East Midlands to introduce a no smoking policy at playgrounds and around its school gates.<br /><br />Nottingham City Council said it wanted to protect children from the effects of smoking and reduce its uptake.<br /><br />It added the policy was not enforceable by law, but wanted people to comply.<br /><br />Pro-smoking group Forest (Freedom Organisation for the Right to Enjoy Smoking Tobacco) said the plans were "heavy handed".<br /><br />Councillor Eunice Campbell, from Nottingham City Council, said: "Parents do not want their children to be exposed to smoking or to take up the habit.<br /><br />"We hope that they will support this initiative."<br /><br />Simon Clark, director of Forest, said: "It is not the business of a local council to tell adults how to behave.<br /><br />"There is no evidence of a health risk to children from smoking in the open air."<br /><br />No-smoking signs designed by children will be displayed in playgrounds maintained by Nottingham City Council from Tuesday.<br /><br />The signs will also be available for primary schools in the Nottingham city area to display at their school gates."P T Barnumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-50204149005259441802011-11-08T23:30:27.729+00:002011-11-08T23:30:27.729+00:00Don't you have to wonder really about the &quo...Don't you have to wonder really about the "journalists" who give ink and air time to cretins like Wearing? There's no shortage of thick fucks squirting buckets of dribbling shite, nobody would pay any attention to then normally. What kind of training are they getting in journalism school? Schoolteachers... snarl.... don't get me started.....Man and a halfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-74203377079462808982011-11-08T23:06:12.432+00:002011-11-08T23:06:12.432+00:00What seems like a new anti-smoking commercial debu...What seems like a new anti-smoking commercial debuted this week in California, funded by a new fake-charity other than the one operating on taxpayer money out of Sacramento. In this ad it shows a man smoking at his kitchen table, then it shows the two children eating on either side of him blowing smoking out of their mouths and ends with big letters across the screen, to the effect, "Second Hand Smoke - It's More Dangerous Than You Think". The government paid ads run continueally throughout the day also but hone in more on the smoker than on the fictitious second-hand-smoking-fraud invented by Adolph Hitler and revived for today's brave new world of idiot believers. It will be to justify more outdoor smoking bans like the ones in San Francisco that command a $500 fine as punishment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-53132746876850540272011-11-08T22:03:19.665+00:002011-11-08T22:03:19.665+00:00Just so I am clear on the supposed facts - SHS is ...Just so I am clear on the supposed facts - SHS is so pervasive, so deadly that it can permeate apartments and adjoining office spaces through the electrical outlets, the light fixtures, underneath fitted door jams and even directly through solid walls. <br /><br />And it is so deadly that it can cause considerable health problems for the persons inside these spaces even to the point of death.<br /><br />Yet, I am also to believe that in an outdoor play area, the mere perimeter barriers and railings(??) are sufficient to hold in this "all powerful" tobacco smoke, causing it to accumulate and cause harzard to those in the play areas.<br /><br />Clearly this type of ranting is characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia and the idea that anyone would believe any of this for one second is most disturbing.<br /><br />Jim Jones, David Karesch, Heaven's Gate and now PANAT. I wonder if they will have an online fan club and decoder rings - or perhaps tee shirts with a big wagging finger and the saying "Just say NO - NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT...OR THAT...OR THAT...OF THAT EITHER...or that..or thatRichard Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-55889880968785834492011-11-08T21:20:54.875+00:002011-11-08T21:20:54.875+00:00The Eleventh Commandment—‘Don’t Smoke!’
Sure, no ...<i>The Eleventh Commandment—‘Don’t Smoke!’</i><br /><br />Sure, no problem. I've already broken the first ten in spades, so one more won't matter.Dieselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671959970337429705noreply@blogger.com