tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post1875465632569180948..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: The First Indoctrinated Vaper?Dick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-18444535101867337752013-12-03T09:12:56.495+00:002013-12-03T09:12:56.495+00:00Nothing like an inaccurate generalisation to total...Nothing like an inaccurate generalisation to totally miss the point...<br />As a vaper I have probably done more than you to hassle and harangue those in power to repeal the smoking ban and not press on with plain packaging, as well as forcing the BBC (as well as Sheffield University's ScHARR) to backtrack over claims about MUP for alcohol and assorted other broadcast inaccuracies, but in your eyes I'm basically a 'spineless runner'?<br /><br /><br />I always thought it was the government who went for the divide and rule thing, rather than the people dividing themselves - people like you would make me question my support for ideas in which I had no vested interest, if it wasn't for the fact that I actually believe in freedom.SteveWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-69881626447227600702013-12-02T14:43:29.536+00:002013-12-02T14:43:29.536+00:00I would be willing to bet my favorite mod that thi...I would be willing to bet my favorite mod that this "yank" is an anti stooge. Nobody on the US side of the pond calls himself a vaporer! We're vapers. And proud of it, btw!Anianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-40286827143032772762013-12-02T12:25:41.780+00:002013-12-02T12:25:41.780+00:00Lets kick the pussy footing about Vaping into touc...Lets kick the pussy footing about Vaping into touch.<br />Vapers are basically spineless runners who gave up the fight for choice and<br />thought they could avoid the attention of the PharmaStooges<br />Did the clowns think The Drug Barons would allow 1.3 million to shrink away from their lucrative NRT bonanza (Nicotine Replacement Treatments)<br />Did these Vanilla Pansies think they could suck away into oblivion<br />Did these Numpties assume the Politburo would stand back and see<br />£5 million PER DAY be lost in taxes ,up in fruit flavouered steam.<br />Simple solution,stop playing doormats ,tear up the rule books and have a go<br />at kicking out<br />Points to ponder on<br />Group of Yonners outside Wetherspoons,under an umberella , VAPING<br />Struggling North Cheshire Pub Landlady,pub on last legs,<br />BLAMES the Breathalyser for her trade slump ?????????????????<br />PS<br />Best thing for those shrivveled up maggots who refuse to stand up and fight<br />STOP BLITHERING AND BLABBING JUST SHUT ITJumping Jack Flashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-38684821766949501442013-12-02T02:10:24.648+00:002013-12-02T02:10:24.648+00:00I’d still go along with the anti theory. Because,...I’d still go along with the anti theory. Because, of course, many vapers are indeed<br />also antis. So it wouldn’t be hard to<br />convince a willing anti (whether they vape or not) to shove in a comment or two<br />showing how “even vapers themselves support the ban/regulations/restrictions”<br />etc, would it? It worked against<br />smokers, after all, so why should Tobacco Control change their methods? They aren’t exactly renowned for their<br />originality of ideas, are they? Look at<br />how often the old “for the sake of the cheeldren” or “the economic costs of<br />smoking” or “smoking causes …” are wheeled out these days with little more than<br />a superficial makeover in their efforts to try (usually unsuccessfully, these<br />days) to ramp public hysteria up to the glory days of yore. The only thing, of<br />course, is that when the trick was used against smokers, none of us saw it<br />coming or even realised what was going on until it was too late. “Astroturfing” and all its associated<br />machinations just wasn’t something many of us had come across before. Second time around, we’re all wise to the<br />trick and can see it for what it is (hence our immediate assumption in response<br />to this comment). <br /><br /> <br /><br />I just hope, for their own sakes, that vapers don’t have<br />such short memories that they have forgotten how this tactic was used against<br />them (when, presumably, they were still real smokers), and thus overlook the<br />opportunity to rebuff – loudly and in large numbers - any such insinuations as<br />soon as they appear. It’s a concern,<br />though, that if a person is feeble-minded enough to be convinced by all the<br />antis’ tricks to give up smoking and switch to vaping, they are likely to be just<br />as vulnerable to the same tactics being used against them in respect of vaping.Jaxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-23197736395132774272013-12-02T01:48:20.966+00:002013-12-02T01:48:20.966+00:00Oh dear. Does that make me a "smokerer?"...Oh dear. Does that make me a "smokerer?"Jaxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-7801461528018895282013-12-01T22:30:00.107+00:002013-12-01T22:30:00.107+00:00It's a yank.It's a yank.Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-65730008589490727262013-12-01T22:29:47.108+00:002013-12-01T22:29:47.108+00:00It was my first thought too. I was about 70% sure ...It was my first thought too. I was about 70% sure it was a false flag post but the reaction on Twitter amongst vapers is that they've all met someone like this. Not so sure now.Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-6563385989903934832013-12-01T22:22:34.891+00:002013-12-01T22:22:34.891+00:00Old school, you. ;)Old school, you. ;)Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-61725116808990098782013-12-01T22:21:13.439+00:002013-12-01T22:21:13.439+00:00vaporer??vaporer??westcoast2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-19126023805864173682013-12-01T22:02:39.200+00:002013-12-01T22:02:39.200+00:00It is probably a paid anti-smoker commenter faking...It is probably a paid anti-smoker commenter faking himself as a vaper in order to make it sound like all vapers feel the same and putting words into vapers' mouths, same way they did to smokers. They pay professional people, students, others, to infiltrate, pretending to be one of the smokers/vapers, then skew opinion, hoping to affect public sentiments.<br />Vaping steam doesn't smell the way I understand it, except for a few designed to have an aromatic aroma. So that right there tells me, someone paid from the anti-smoking industry is the one who is making that up, in order to start the thought process going in the public mind, to perceive vaping as "smelly" - same as they did with aromatic tobacco smokes.<br />Furthermore, someone smells colognes, perfumes and deodorants of all sorts, along with food smells of various types mixed together whenever in public. So trying to hard sell the idea that a cacophony of aromas is going to become untolerable is just pre-conditioning public sentiment, before demanding public vaping be banned, the same step by step plan the anti-smoking industry applied against smoking.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-28995220901694251552013-12-01T21:46:04.862+00:002013-12-01T21:46:04.862+00:00"champing at the bit to smack them in the mou..."champing at the bit to smack them in the mouth.."<br /><br /><br />Lol, that would be me then.Tony Handnoreply@blogger.com