tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post3184535306142045536..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: The Consequences Of Crying Wolf?Dick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-87982691727382477142011-07-29T03:42:35.608+01:002011-07-29T03:42:35.608+01:00Sorry, total female deaths was 178,311 not 17,696....Sorry, total female deaths was 178,311 not 17,696.<br /><br />Mike F.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-7151873183058647242011-07-28T23:38:49.207+01:002011-07-28T23:38:49.207+01:00According to the ever so precise figures of the U....According to the ever so precise figures of the U. S. government <br /> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5114a2.htm <br /><br />annual Smoking-Attributable Mortality (SAM) 1995-1999 was, in total, 442,398 deaths (264,087 male plus 17,696 female). Of these, 17,696 (9,944 male, 7,752 female) were from emphysema and bronchitis combined. For anyone foolish enough to accept these numbers as valid, this is about 4%.<br /><br />The idea that "Almost all smokers will get emphysema, while a quarter of all deaths from smoking are from emphysema," is weird.<br /><br />Mike F.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-86423994295767251572011-07-28T02:22:03.618+01:002011-07-28T02:22:03.618+01:00Dick would you please explain the last paragraph t...Dick would you please explain the last paragraph to me? 'Mafraid I didn't understand your point.<br /><br />I suppose this is a bit of good news, but still depressing that despite the alarms various people have been ringing for years, no one was interested until the proverbial frog had already boiled to death.Reinhardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10694895534878281009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-63209781405586408762011-07-27T20:17:30.795+01:002011-07-27T20:17:30.795+01:00It’s the Catch-22 for any campaign group which see...It’s the Catch-22 for any campaign group which seeks to achieve its aims by making false promises, scaremongering and telling sheer lies, though, isn’t it? Because they can only get away with it <i>up to the point that they actually achieve their aims</i> – be that prohibition, smoking bans, religious conversion, selling health insurance, flogging second-hand cars, winning an election, or whatever. Whether they like it or not, as far as the general public are concerned, from that moment on reality kicks in, and it is – for the campaigners – a sorry fact that it takes a much, much shorter time for people to realise, in the light of cold, hard experience, that they’ve been sold a pup than it takes to brainwash them in the first place. <br /><br />Which may go a long way towards explaining why the drop-off in support for the anti-smoking movement has been so steep since the smoking ban was implemented, with the result that new smoking-related health stories have a ring of the “any port in a storm” about them, are generally relegated to the middle pages of the newspapers, and why increasing numbers of non-smoking reporters are now starting to express reservations about the ban and about the whole anti-smoking movement, and why commenters and protesters against the movement now include increasing numbers of non-smokers amongst them. The recent moves by erstwhile big-time supporters of anti-smoking, such as RWJF to shift funds elsewhere, as indicated by Chris Snowdon on his blog (kindly linked for me in a previous comment by the good DP himself) are a sign that, despite the rather whining protestations of anti-smoking lobbies everywhere as to how vital their work still remains, their funders have clearly realised that money spent here is no longer going to achieve the results that it used to. <br /><br />The trouble is, anti-smoking has used this tactic so successfully for so long now that it simply doesn’t know any other way to go about achieving its aims, and in any case the only alternative to telling lies is – er – to tell the truth. And the truth, as we all know, totally contradicts everything that anti-smoking has ever said about tobacco.<br /><br />Catch-22 indeed. I always said that the worst possible thing to happen to the anti-smoking movement would be the smoking ban. How ironic to think that if they’d only listened to me – a humble, filthy smoker – all that lovely lucre, power and influence could still be there for the taking for them instead of slipping, inexorably, from their grasp!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-40593323301310631562011-07-27T19:44:30.259+01:002011-07-27T19:44:30.259+01:00"""""Fiona Sharkie???????..."""""Fiona Sharkie????????<br />What can be said about totty baguettes like this twisted sowette.Obviously she has had some <br />sad relationships in a disjointed<br />upbringing,puberty in the normal sense of the word has only added to her maladjustment in a forlorn youth.Lacking attention from normal<br />humans ,she now occupies her life<br />of pathos spewing out well funded<br />doom and gloom.I think we all know what this silly tart really needs,<br />a soon as possibleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-82279173980360903342011-07-27T18:34:58.598+01:002011-07-27T18:34:58.598+01:00As Al Pacino once said : "Free will, it is a ...As Al Pacino once said : "Free will, it is a bitch..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-12898521750550752862011-07-27T16:18:09.057+01:002011-07-27T16:18:09.057+01:00AE: Precisely. The scaremongery has reached ridicu...AE: Precisely. The scaremongery has reached ridiculous proportion when thirdhand smoke is being touted by people who are supposed to have received an education. It's an Emperor's clothes moment.<br /><br />John East: Agreed. Precisely the opposite of what they <i>should</i> be doing. But then, they're not really <i>people</i> people are they? ;)Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-68698823408308288112011-07-27T12:52:36.207+01:002011-07-27T12:52:36.207+01:00The lessons that will be learned from this by the ...The lessons that will be learned from this by the authoritarian Health fascists are:<br /><br />1. That they aren't trying hard enough.<br /><br />2. That they need more legislation to change behaviour by force.<br /><br />3. That much higher taxes are required to compel compliance with their desires.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-53162783725966098582011-07-27T12:52:32.701+01:002011-07-27T12:52:32.701+01:00Almost all smokers will get emphysema, while a qua...Almost all smokers will get emphysema, while a quarter of all deaths from smoking are from emphysema," <br /><br />Can someone explain that statement ?<br /><br />Does it mean that three quarters of smokers who have emphysema do not die of it ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-29916193543012732872011-07-27T12:40:26.460+01:002011-07-27T12:40:26.460+01:00The Aussie story made me think that perhaps people...The Aussie story made me think that perhaps people are starting to react to the increasingly implausible scare tactics in the opposite way to what the antis want. Make the claims ridiculous enough and of course people are going to raise an eyebrow and call bullshit.Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.com