tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post4945802821954054814..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: Redefining "Misinformation"Dick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-40175516534389704842015-01-27T11:45:17.951+00:002015-01-27T11:45:17.951+00:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btww5ZEPBu0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btww5ZEPBu0Entropynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-74932719135148028932015-01-26T23:34:57.595+00:002015-01-26T23:34:57.595+00:00If the govt is landed with a £12bn bill, I'd e...If the govt is landed with a £12bn bill, I'd expect retribution to save political blushes. One enquiry is all it would take for their fraudulent behaviour to be exposed. <br /><br /><br />Then just send the bill to pharma and cut off all grants until they can behave like civilised human beings.Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-82044511899299809742015-01-26T20:49:49.092+00:002015-01-26T20:49:49.092+00:00I saw that happening a long time ago, when they st...I saw that happening a long time ago, when they started to plaster the boxes with those stupid propaganda texts. Children (probably not smoking) approached me and asked for my empty box for their collections.Norbert Zillatronhttp://nzillatron.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-23019443713439045542015-01-26T18:48:48.160+00:002015-01-26T18:48:48.160+00:00Dear Mr Puddlecote
"Roll on the court cases....Dear Mr Puddlecote<br /><br /><i>"Roll on the court cases. I hope the tobacco industry sting the government for billions."</i><br /><br />Unfortunately it will be the taxpayers who will foot the bill.<br /><br />Much better to arraign the anti-tobacco fraudsters for misconduct in a public office, fraud and obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception and any other crimes they have committed, then suing them whilst they kick their heels in jail.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />DPDPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-45050429301097987022015-01-26T13:31:43.976+00:002015-01-26T13:31:43.976+00:00Smokers who don't like the gruesome photoshopp...Smokers who don't like the gruesome photoshopped images will simply chuck the packets in the bin and find something less ugly to keep their smokes or tobacco in. Teenagers here collect all the different packets, and older smokers make a joke of them.judenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-48988618349299248832015-01-26T12:36:59.962+00:002015-01-26T12:36:59.962+00:00My God!! Inspiring isn't the word.My God!! Inspiring isn't the word.Frank Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-70339279130104115782015-01-26T12:25:08.391+00:002015-01-26T12:25:08.391+00:00wow, that BBC presenter comes across as a complete...wow, that BBC presenter comes across as a complete plonker. He keeps asking, 'why object to plain packaging'. Idiots like these should have all the products they use, from the toothpaste they use in the morning, to the car they drive to work, to the hamburger they have for lunch and so on covered in grisly 'plain packaging'. Maybe then it would get through his thick head why people object to 'plain packaging'.JLTraderhttp://jltrader.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-42582522102255357632015-01-26T10:17:57.218+00:002015-01-26T10:17:57.218+00:00"The constant moralizing finger-waggers are m..."The constant moralizing finger-waggers are moral frauds"<br /><br /><br />I would go as far as to say not only moral frauds, but Criminal Fraudsters too!truckerlynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-40537663732765397192015-01-26T10:13:07.406+00:002015-01-26T10:13:07.406+00:00The way I see their 'horror' pics that are...The way I see their 'horror' pics that are supposed to scare people silly, is the more you are faced with them the less you see them until you don't see them at all! Kind of makes them a bit pointless really. I am sure there must be some scientific evidence of this effect!truckerlynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-55855964745437167332015-01-26T04:08:05.522+00:002015-01-26T04:08:05.522+00:00Some of the well-paid, whining liars of Tobacco Co...Some of the well-paid, whining liars of Tobacco Control – Bobbie Pest and<br />Marty McPee.What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-17397567613164570602015-01-26T03:53:24.724+00:002015-01-26T03:53:24.724+00:00It’s a standard smear routine/tactic by the morali...It’s a standard smear routine/tactic by the moralizing zealots and their faithful disciples.<br /><br /> This from Simon Chapman’s “The Lung Goodbye” [how to do propaganda], presented at the [antismoking] 5th World Conference on Smoking & Health in 1983:<br /><br /><i>“Such a list could be added to considerably, but most entries would be characterized by being somehow cast in a mythological good versus evil battle in an arena observed by mass numbers of people. The good (health/clean air/children) versus evil (cancer/uncaring, callous industry) dimension is the ineluctable bottom line in the whole issue and a rich reservoir for spawning a great deal of useful social drama, metaphor, and symbolic politics that is the stuff of ‘news value’ and which is almost always to the detriment of the industry.” p.11</i> (see Godber Blueprint)<br /><br />This entire “Us vs Them” framework was also contrived by the fanatics<br />decades ago. Having cast themselves in the role of the “mythological good”<br />(natch), the zealots are always right and benevolent. Anyone who dares disagree with them is always wrong and part of some “evil” tobacco industry<br />“conspiracy”. It’s all for manipulative, “theatrical” effect – although there<br />are some in the antismoking movement that believe they are “god-like” - and has been quite successfully used for the last three decades on an essentially superficial/gullible political class, media, and public. Disagree with the fanatics and you’ll be accused of being an emissary of the “evil” tobacco industry, a promoter of cancer, and a child corrupter/killer. The zealots and their financial partners (government and Pharma) must have regular belly laughs at how all too easy the brainwashing has been.<br /><br />The constant moralizing finger-waggers are moral frauds.What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-42338265839994744012015-01-26T03:44:55.160+00:002015-01-26T03:44:55.160+00:00Excellent summary, DP.
Tobacco Control is popula...Excellent summary, DP.<br /><br /> Tobacco Control is populated by the megalomaniacal, the sadistic, the neurotic, the narcissistic, the bigoted, the incompetent; they’re self-serving pathological liars. Most extraordinary in this deranged mash is that these fraudsters portray themselves as the “mythological good”….. the “righteous<br />ones”….. battling the “evil” tobacco industry. They never address any pertinent issues. They simply re-frame any circumstance into “Us vs Them”: Why are “they” – the “evil” tobacco industry – getting any air time? Only “we” – the mythological good” should ever be heard.<br /><br /> It’s truly pathetic and has been going on for decades.What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-24206673396886986862015-01-26T02:23:35.888+00:002015-01-26T02:23:35.888+00:00"Why would the tobacco industry and its allie...<em>"Why would the tobacco industry and its allies be so vehemently opposed <br />to plain packaging if they weren't so frightened that plain packaging <br />would work?"</em><br /><br /><br />Because it's a gift to smugglers and forgers, obviously. Which is the <em>real</em> reason tobacco control wants it: remove the branding guarantee, make smoking even more genuinely dangerous, then they can start planting stories in the media about criminal tobacco gangs roaming the streets peddling untested concoctions in apparently legitimate packaging to an unsuspecting public.<br /><br /><br />Arnott must think we were born yesterday.Sam Duncannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-67451464891023670262015-01-26T02:03:17.259+00:002015-01-26T02:03:17.259+00:00The rise in vaping is causing the screaming of the...The rise in vaping is causing the screaming of the ANTZ to become hysterical. They are being hoisted by their own lies in regards to tobacco smoking, SHS and the nonsensical THS, and are being forced to justify their stance against something that is not tobacco smoking. I've seen more exposure of the lies and corruption by the tobacco control industry since vaping became a thing, than in all the years I was a smoker. <br /><br /><br />On the surface these pinch mouthed puritans, liars and bullies, may appear to be in control, but below the water line they are paddling like mad. We, vapers and smokers, need to keep up the pressure and keep exposing the garbage they come out with.judenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-81672167990518722122015-01-26T00:18:52.887+00:002015-01-26T00:18:52.887+00:00It seems the "Scream Test" is scoring an...It seems the "Scream Test" is scoring an "own goal." Tobacco control lies are being exposed and they don't like it. It's hard to keep the masses in thrall when they find out the truth. A concerted effort to disclose all tobacco control lies and manipulation is needed now.Vinny Gracchusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-35856802527614412412015-01-25T23:51:44.523+00:002015-01-25T23:51:44.523+00:00That they even have a 'scream test' is the...That they even have a 'scream test' is the biggest irony of all.RooBeeDoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-14302116665831338382015-01-25T22:37:12.268+00:002015-01-25T22:37:12.268+00:00Interesting point. As you say, if anything the ...Interesting point. As you say, if anything the 'threat' from tobacco should have been lessened since the 60s considering there are far fewer smokers, far more benign tobacco, and far better education on health effects. <br /><br /><br />Of course, there are far more numerous anti-smoking professionals and a massive avalanche of cash for people to make a career out of being an anti-smoker. I dunno, perhaps there might be a link? ;)Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-48146294812903748152015-01-25T22:15:18.287+00:002015-01-25T22:15:18.287+00:00What I find astounding when I really think about i...What I find astounding when I really think about it is how far this lunacy has come. Since the first SG report in 1965 there hasn't been any real progress about how smoking is supposed to cause almost every illness known to man. It's still the same lies, damned lies and statistics that Doll started in 1950. I think everyone should try to look at the bigger picture and notice how absurd this whole thing is. We have the same facts as they had when they were talking about a small 'caution' message on the side of the pack in 1965 and here we are talking about covering the whole pack in grisly medical porn. It's baffling.JLTraderhttp://jltrader.comnoreply@blogger.com