tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post5190511369240083911..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: Raising The Bar For E-CigsDick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-7310516635295281792011-10-06T22:12:21.792+01:002011-10-06T22:12:21.792+01:00I'm told there was an interesting and unexpect...I'm told there was an interesting and unexpected item on 'Daybreak' this morning!<br />Dr Hilary Jones (on no-smoking day) talked about e-cigs and PROMOTED E-CIGS as good substitute for smoking. He even showed a pub with a room set aside for vapers.Xopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01387364739989208360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-61600777453183153622011-10-04T23:16:43.174+01:002011-10-04T23:16:43.174+01:00I agree with Ian B.
I have a friend (or rather a l...I agree with Ian B.<br />I have a friend (or rather a long-term friendly acquaintance)who is not unhappy with the ban. He drinks and smokes. He says that the ban has been useful because, by standing outside the pub, he has been enabled to have lots of conversations with people he would never normally has spoken with. But I only see him there on Friday nights (the only night on which the pub is busy). <br /><br />This chap is an intelligent man, and yet he cannot see further than his own immediate assessment of the pros and cons. I find all this very confusing - why does he not think the matter through a little? No matter what I say to him (about smoking rooms, for example), he shrugs his shoulders. I suspect that a complete ban on tobacco would be similarly received because he vaguely wants to give up smoking - another shrug of the shoulders. But I wonder what his attitude will be when his <i>favourite</i> pubs start closing down?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-75585701266013799442011-10-03T11:58:34.969+01:002011-10-03T11:58:34.969+01:00The striking thing really is that nobody cares wha...The striking thing really is that nobody cares what is true any more. This is in a sense the endgame of demonisation. Once some minority is successfull demonised, you can say anything. Even if people realise what you are saying is untrue, they will not mind. So, in order to further Godwinise the thread, for example the Jews. Once everyone has accepted the Jews are evil, you might then say, "Jews suck the blood from babies".<br /><br />And if somebody else says, "that isn't true, is it?" another person will say, "well no, but they're evil anyway, so it doesn't matter".<br /><br />You know, I focus in what I laughably call "my research" on belief, and how belief systems evolve. The Marxists got that very right; you have to change the "ideological hegemony", then you can do anything. I went for a meal with my sister and her husband last week, and they are nominally conservative.<br /><br />And my Brother in law in particular, he hates everything leftie, and the nanny state, and all that, and he smokes and likes a drink. But, we were talking, and he came out with this "the planet is fucked" thing, and i said, "no, no it isn't", and he reeled off the litany of environmentalist twaddle, and I half-heartedly started trying to debunk it but gave up, because you can't.<br /><br />It's a belief. You get the general idea stuck in somebody's head that the planet is going to hell in a handbasket, and trying to change their mind is virtually impossible. That's belief. They just *know* in their heart.<br /><br />*shrugs*<br /><br />I dunno. I guess we just keep plugging away. But other than on The Internets, I don't know a single soul who hasn't internalised considerable fraction of The Ideology, even people who think of themselves as "conservative" and hating the State and so on. It's very disheartening.Ian Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15436369802742523036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-79596251697311962082011-10-03T01:47:33.561+01:002011-10-03T01:47:33.561+01:00If I have spare leaves I'll try making Electro...If I have spare leaves I'll try making Electrofag juice. It's not hard, nicotine is water-soluble. Concentration? Who gives a damn?<br /><br />I've been wondering if I could make it and keep the floral scent of the flowers I've been smoking but this year, I started too late.<br /><br />Might try anyway. If it will piss off the Righteous it's worth it.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-21686709567242374322011-10-02T22:11:47.930+01:002011-10-02T22:11:47.930+01:00I'm all for pleasurable choice - NRT is NOT pl...I'm all for pleasurable choice - NRT is NOT pleasurable at all :( I would recommend ecigs over NRT, BUT I would also recommend smoking over NRT.<br /><br />If you want the pleasure, stick to your guns,,,smoke where you can, use ecigs where you cannot smoke!<br /><br />Russell VR Ord<br />Campaign for Vaping in PubsCampaign for Vaping in Pubshttp://camvip.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-88812929241034439692011-10-02T21:23:16.669+01:002011-10-02T21:23:16.669+01:00It is all so depressingly predictable that the pun...It is all so depressingly predictable that the punchline at the end of the post lacked any punch at all. Funny how the MSM never seem to pick up on any of this stuff.<br /><br />I hesitate to invoke Godwin, but I can't help seeing the parallels between the hopelessness of the German Jews being ground down by the Nazi propaganda machine in the early days of the Third Reich and the beleaguered smokers, (and now vapers) of today battling the anti-smoker / big pharma propaganda machine. <br /><br />It's relentless and it's merciless; a real "end justifies the means" campaign based on hate, spite and prejudice.nisakimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-71882857996128173522011-10-02T20:21:14.763+01:002011-10-02T20:21:14.763+01:00It's all about the money as always.It's all about the money as always.The Filthy Engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07584236558282159183noreply@blogger.com