tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post6791567570446500392..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: The Petrol ElephantDick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-16117701155390332082012-10-02T14:31:32.245+01:002012-10-02T14:31:32.245+01:00XX The trouble is that the changes happen swiftly ...XX The trouble is that the changes happen swiftly and there is no mechanism for the pumps to follow that wild up and down motion.XX<br /><br />They don't appear to have that problem when the prices go up in a budget. Within bloody SECONDS the forecourts are BANG "up to date". So if they can do it in one direction, they can do it in the other. And that was in the days BEFORE all they had to do was make a few clicks with a computer mouse to effect the change!Furor Teutonicusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-48635485047393674802012-09-07T14:57:05.901+01:002012-09-07T14:57:05.901+01:00Another thing: folks, it isn't just about fami...Another thing: folks, it isn't just about family cars. Like the retail margin, they're only a tiny part of the real problem. Everything you buy has been transported from where it was made to where you bought it. All the raw materials were transported from where they were mined/grown/whatever to where the thing was made. The tranport industry's fuel bills (as Dick could no doubt tell you) would loosen your bowels. Remember, it was the haulage industry that almost brought the Blair government down in 2001.<br /><br />Fuel tax is a tax on <em>everything</em>.Sam Duncannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-86577952479472169422012-09-07T10:46:58.570+01:002012-09-07T10:46:58.570+01:00But they dont have the cost to worry about that, t...But they dont have the cost to worry about that, that is borne by the retailers and suppliers - the money just rolls on in. ScottWichallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-9624691880246400322012-09-07T09:06:24.518+01:002012-09-07T09:06:24.518+01:00Petrol is only marginally cheaper on the continent...Petrol is only marginally cheaper on the continent. Having worked in Netherlands earlier this year, unleaded was around the EUR1.73 - 1.76 mark on the forecourt and 1.78 (ish) on the motorways. In France (just back from hols) on the supermarket forecourts the cheapest I paid was EUR 1.59 and around 1.74 on the motorways. Only Luxembourg has subsidised fuel prices at around EUR 1.00 per litre. Diesel, on the other hand, is much cheaper on the continent.Henry Crunnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-91860268814249762612012-09-07T06:37:59.790+01:002012-09-07T06:37:59.790+01:00Strange how government theft is now ingrained in ...Strange how government theft is now ingrained in the British psyche.<br />These "blinkers" have been well and truly worn for decades.c777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-17323840889104276262012-09-07T06:14:02.636+01:002012-09-07T06:14:02.636+01:00The newspapers aren't mass media anymore - br...The newspapers aren't mass media anymore - broadcast media is where the propaganda effort goes. Fawning toadies doesn't quite cover it. Al Beeb used to do a European fuel price comparison table on Ceefax - that disappeared sometime during Blair's tenure when the grotesque lickspittles rushed out to paper over any evidence they thought would inflame the masses. If one applies the filter of wholesale disortion of this issue to the rest of the TV output - the picture that emerges is not a palatable one....<br /><br /><br />20% VAT ? would you voluntarily give 20% of the value of your work voluntarily to somebody who didn't contribute to the outcome?<br /><br /><br />Males the medieval church and tithes look quite benign.moonrakinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-83515033244892083792012-09-07T01:12:43.550+01:002012-09-07T01:12:43.550+01:00I don't drive myself (haven't owned a car ...I don't drive myself (haven't owned a car for years, too many knobs on the road these days) but I am wondering when people will stand up and say "enough is enough" with these crazy fuel prices.<br /><br /><br />It's a clear piss-take. We get ripped off here in the UK on pretty much everything but fuel stands out to me as the one that may (just may) be the straw that breaks the camels back. I'm not thinking suburban mum in the massive 4x4 taking the kiddies 2 miles to school, I am talking major transport companies and the like.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-39713766120905503892012-09-07T01:00:46.406+01:002012-09-07T01:00:46.406+01:00How the hell do we compete with other nations?
...How the hell do we compete with other nations? <br /><br />Throw in the energy prices - think about it - government drops gas prices and 'invents' cheap energy ie: no green boondoggles and we could maybe start competing again.Ravenscar.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-18956459707299906542012-09-06T21:43:06.842+01:002012-09-06T21:43:06.842+01:00Fuel ! a rip off! you must be joking
Actual cost o...Fuel ! a rip off! you must be joking<br />Actual cost of a PINT is 25p selling at 75p (PINT)<br />If you want a real eye watering rip off try beer and tobacco<br />Beer pint (actual)9-13p selling at £2.50 -£4<br />Loose tobacco "quoted" 23-28 p per 50 grammes in shop £15.00<br />So my dear beloved bleating ,moaning ,groaning ,whinging,suffering <br />hard done by gas guzzling chokers<br />SCHuss<br />smoker with a bus passA room with a viewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-20804436022832743072012-09-06T20:54:04.267+01:002012-09-06T20:54:04.267+01:00Well finally Boy George & Cast Iron have final...Well finally Boy George & Cast Iron have finally figured out how to work the old smoke & mirrors machine the Buffty frae Kirkcaldy left behind in Downing Sreet.<br />Use the OFT investigation to divert the proles attention whilst increasing their pick pocketing taxes.<br />I would far rather see the OFT investigating the price differential of petrol to diesel. Now there they might be onto something?barnacle billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-25188223114157997152012-09-06T20:45:53.200+01:002012-09-06T20:45:53.200+01:00Let's not ignore the maths fail, because that ...Let's not ignore the maths fail, because that makes the point as eloquently as anything else: the retail margin is simply a rounding error.<br /><br />My mental arithmetic is only marginally better than ITV's, but on my reckoning, when you buy £20 worth of fuel, the retailer still doesn't quite make as much on that as the government does on every single liter*.<br /><br />*You can force me to put up with these daft measurements, but you'll never make me speak French.Sam Duncannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-74362635564849524532012-09-06T20:05:59.565+01:002012-09-06T20:05:59.565+01:00I think the government should immediately add 5p o...I think the government should immediately add 5p on per litre to fund investigating such flagrant profiteering! Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-586943256185188012012-09-06T20:04:59.958+01:002012-09-06T20:04:59.958+01:00Interesting stuff. So it seems that there are mult...Interesting stuff. So it seems that there are multi-factors involved in the price charged by oil companies, which I'm sure the OFT will spend a lot of time and money investigating.<br /><br /><br />Meanwhile, the government will continue to sit on their fat backsides creaming the duty and VAT off others' endeavours with just the cost of collection to worry about. <br /><br /><br />Yes, I can see it now, petrol companies are the crooks! /sarkDick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-4062418290514283942012-09-06T20:02:47.624+01:002012-09-06T20:02:47.624+01:00I wonder if last century still counts as "rec...I wonder if last century still counts as "recent years".Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-9855867714418201112012-09-06T20:02:19.362+01:002012-09-06T20:02:19.362+01:00I believe she said "recent years", WfW. ...I believe she said "recent years", WfW. ;)Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-14792155789748770702012-09-06T19:48:54.633+01:002012-09-06T19:48:54.633+01:00Hmm. Looking at that graphic, how dare retailers m...Hmm. Looking at that graphic, how dare retailers make 5p per litre off of us? This capitalism thing is outrageous. Where do I complain? Jayhttp://nannyingtyrants.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-80851088554829606892012-09-06T19:47:39.813+01:002012-09-06T19:47:39.813+01:00I am in the Oil & Gas bidness, and I have lear...I am in the Oil & Gas bidness, and I have learnt a thing or two. (Not that you need to be, but I happen to know where the data is kept).<br /><br />In UK waters it costs the oil majors between $12-14 a barrel to get the oil out of the ground. In West Africa, (thanks to less legislation, lower wage bills etc) it costs them between $2-4 per barrel. The sale price (of Brent Crude) is $113 per barrel and Light Sweet (from the Gulf of Mexico) is $95 per barrel. Now, those prices are for future supplies and those prices are what buyers will pay four weeks from today.<br /><br />If some Nigerian warlord farts anywhere near a pipeline in the Niger Delta, the price will rocket. A day or two later when they realise that his gas had no effect on supply, the price will settle again. But the buyers are still paying that briefly inflated price. It's up and down like a bride's nightie most months as sabre-rattling in the ME continues. Even Hurricane Isaac had a detrimental effect.<br /><br />The trouble is that the changes happen swiftly and there is no mechanism for the pumps to follow that wild up and down motion.<br /><br />The only thing that is constant is, as you rightly point out......the tax take.<br /><br />If those useless fucktards really wanted to stimulate the economy, all they need to do is reduce the tax by 10 or 20 or 50%.<br /><br />But that, obviously, would be far too easy.<br /><br />They are addicted to our cash. And we all think we should feed that addiction.<br /><br />So, nothing will change.<br /><br />Unless we get Chavez in charge. Venezuelans pay around 2p per litre. Even ole' Gadaffi knew how to keep his people sweet. They used to pay around 7p per litre. And his country didn't owe anyone a single dinar.<br /><br />Go figure.<br /><br />CR.Captain Rantynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-14442612869614189012012-09-06T19:46:42.278+01:002012-09-06T19:46:42.278+01:00Petrol was last 65p per litre or less in 1999.Petrol was last 65p per litre or less in 1999.PeterA5145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-78100865780085607822012-09-06T19:44:44.961+01:002012-09-06T19:44:44.961+01:00"hands up who can remember when fuel was 65p ..."hands up who can remember when fuel was 65p a litre"<br /><br />Heck, some of us can remember when petrol was about 3/6d a gallon!WitteringsfromWitneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-50447978115897515402012-09-06T19:42:37.789+01:002012-09-06T19:42:37.789+01:00If government controlled retailers' prices and...If government controlled retailers' prices and margins, do you think fuel would be, on average<br /><br />(a) cheaper, or<br />(b) dearer?PeterA5145noreply@blogger.com