tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post774448574275716519..comments2024-01-01T16:01:35.711+00:00Comments on Dick Puddlecote: How DARE Government Threaten To Ignore Tobacco Control!Dick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-7110951398620850102013-06-20T11:26:27.048+01:002013-06-20T11:26:27.048+01:00Thought provoking post! Thank you for sharing it w...Thought provoking post! Thank you for sharing it with us! It will really create awareness among so many people! http://www.vapelikeaboss.com/PeterKenneth24noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-7780044445029947972013-05-08T15:34:49.345+01:002013-05-08T15:34:49.345+01:00They don't care about us, all they want is the...They don't care about us, all they want is the money from our pockets so they can run the government and force us to follow such silly rules.South Beach Smokehttp://www.southbeachsmoke.com/ecig-review-sites.aspxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-53277944680993951802013-05-07T16:27:15.752+01:002013-05-07T16:27:15.752+01:00DP with all the hatred against the EU,TC is their ...DP with all the hatred against the EU,TC is their baby and its being attacked from the highest levels now.............Theres much more going on than we eve relaize behind he curain of political collpases.John Davidsonhttp://www.facebook.com/people/John-Davidson/100003717458506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-58909207819218459832013-05-07T16:24:59.714+01:002013-05-07T16:24:59.714+01:00Psst Mike its the comming political winds of chang...Psst Mike its the comming political winds of change thats making it happen..................movements only last xxxx amount of time then its over in a flash!John Davidsonhttp://www.facebook.com/people/John-Davidson/100003717458506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-85981022693151206702013-05-07T16:21:53.812+01:002013-05-07T16:21:53.812+01:00Simple answer,Camerons knows the UK is busted fina...Simple answer,Camerons knows the UK is busted financially. Tobacco makes money,Tobacco control costs money!John Davidsonhttp://www.facebook.com/people/John-Davidson/100003717458506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-39971421481541119152013-05-05T20:56:03.001+01:002013-05-05T20:56:03.001+01:00I'm not taking anything for granted but you ma...I'm not taking anything for granted but you make a good point. We know how very corrupt politicians and tobacco controllers are, I wouldn't trust any of them to tell me the day of the week accurately. ;)Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-74501858165896497442013-05-04T02:10:50.763+01:002013-05-04T02:10:50.763+01:00"It seems to be common these days for rumours..."It seems to be common these days for rumours to be leaked with the intention, I suppose, of taking the sting out of the backlash. The backlash in this case comes from the Tobacco Control Industry,"<br /><br />Dick, having followed Antismoking deviancies and subterfuges for many many years at this point (basically since around 1976 when a housemate introduced me to a bunch of ASH pamphlets) I most certainly wouldn't rest easy on the laurels of victory here.<br /><br />The OPPOSITE of what you say above could actually be the truth. The gvt. might WANT to go forward with their friends in ASH but have been too disconcerted by the resistance and too afraid of the criticism they'll get. Sooooo.... how can they go ahead anyway?<br /><br />Simple: Announce that it's being pulled while giving the Antis a heads up in advance to prepare a media storm. After a few days of said storm the government can then "surrender to the will of the people," while totally ignoring the fact that the "will" had already been clearly known to be in the opposite direction before the orchestrated storm.<br /><br />Keep an eye on things and don't let them get away with that game if they're pulling it!<br /><br />- MJMMichael McFaddenhttp://profiles.google.com/cantilopernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-90094689395311454012013-05-03T02:52:30.649+01:002013-05-03T02:52:30.649+01:00You’ll also notice that on p.15 of the same “manua...You’ll also notice that on p.15 of the same “manual” is what some refer to as the Chapman Trick – for background, see comments by magnetic01 at:<br /><br />http://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/doctors-in-name-only/#comments<br /><br />http://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/5894/<br /><br />http://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/tobacco-shoots-up/What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-83536790388659437682013-05-03T02:50:41.078+01:002013-05-03T02:50:41.078+01:00Steve, see the Godber Blueprint (http://www.rampan...Steve, see the Godber Blueprint (http://www.rampant-antismoking.com ) which highlights that antismoking has been a social-engineering, neo-prohibition crusade from the very outset – 1970s – by a self-installed<br />clique of nitwits operating under the auspices of the WHO and sponsored by the American Cancer Society. And the social engineering is typically pursued through propaganda.<br /><br />The mythological good vs evil drama was suggested by Crapman<br />at the 1983 World Conference on Smoking & Health. It was in the<br />presentation of his paper, a manual on how to do propaganda, “The Lung Goodbye”:<br /><br /> “Such a list could be added to considerably, but most entries would be characterized by being somehow cast in a mythological good versus evil battle in an arena observed by mass numbers of people. The good (health/clean air/children) versus evil (cancer/uncaring, callous industry) dimension is the ineluctable bottom line in the whole issue and a rich reservoir for spawning a great deal of useful social drama, metaphor, and symbolic politics that is the stuff of ‘news value’ and which is almost always to the detriment of the industry.” p.11<br /><br />“It is vital to reflect on the vastness of information, social issues and news to<br />which people are exposed and over which they are often urged to take up a<br />position. The smoking debate is just one issue pressing for attention - amongst thousands, and like almost any other issue, tends to attract media attention when its issues can be subsumed under some more fundamental mythological context.<br /><br />Following, are some examples, by no means exhaustive, of angles and themes on smoking that seem to have news value:<br />* the mouse that roared, or David and Goliath - when little public interest groups or individuals go into battle with the tobacco industry. (When MOP UP in Sydney challenged the largest cigarette advertising campaign in Australia – and won – one newspaper captured the spirit of the challenge with the headline "MOP UP'S SLINGSHOT CUTS DOWN THE ADVERTISING OGRE")” p.13<br />http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/gjq72f00<br /><br />Direct link to PDF<br />http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/gjq72f00/pdf;jsessionid=32A42DE3836FEBD65B9FE6696FCE11BA.tobacco03What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-77869170842105331132013-05-03T01:50:51.761+01:002013-05-03T01:50:51.761+01:00Do you have a link or reference for Chapman's ...Do you have a link or reference for Chapman's framing statement? It would be very useful to have.<br /><br />many thanksStevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-6101956427130129952013-05-03T00:30:17.166+01:002013-05-03T00:30:17.166+01:00Just another clone, they're all the same. Thei...Just another clone, they're all the same. Their job really <i>is</i> to tell us all how to live by rules they have decided for themselves.Dick_Puddlecotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-13071435002371269702013-05-02T23:49:10.946+01:002013-05-02T23:49:10.946+01:00It’s always good to hear from the simpleton, Simon...It’s always good to hear from the simpleton, Simon Crapman.<br />After a night surely filled with tantrum-throwing and blood-pressure meds,<br />Crappo does the standard antismoking rhetoric – it’s a “win” for Big Tobacco [Oh, how terribly predictable]. And Crappo ought to know: He’s the one who suggested way back in 1983 that antismoking be framed – for “dramatic” effect - as a battle between mythological good (antismoking bigots) and evil (the tobacco industry) - “If you don’t agree with us really good folk, then you must be agreeing with the evil tobacco empire”.<br /><br />Some may find some light entertainment in Stantonitis Glands’<br />– the glorified mechanical engineer and all-round fraudster/slob – self-promoting thread on his recent New Zealand trip. Five-star accommodation and [mostly unquestioning] media attention - what<br />more could an incompetent, neurotic, bigoted, Narcissistic slob ask for? And that’s the goal of the activist-masquerading-as-a-scientist – keep a high media profile ensuring a proliferation of the hate slogans:<br />http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/media-coverage-stan-glantz-visit-new-zealand-discusses-smokefree-movies-strong-anti-tobacco-media-an<br /><br />Speaking of the slob’s jet-setting, “Play Bigot” lifestyle, it’s a good time to reflect on Glands’ visit to London in 2001 to spread his toxic blather:<br />http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jul/27/news/mn-27179<br /><br />Maybe Glands should pick up part of the tab for all the failed pubs.What the....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141759542968821728.post-58473746690556416882013-05-02T22:37:13.116+01:002013-05-02T22:37:13.116+01:00Another person who needs to be told that the plain...Another person who needs to be told that the plain packs campaign has lost. A public health official who thinks his job is telling us how to live.<br /><br />http://twitter.com/mashton73SadButMadLadhttp://sadbutmadlad.com/noreply@blogger.com