To explain, here is an example from Philip Johnston's excellent piece today calling for a small amendment to allow segregated choice - still keeping non-smokers well away from smoke, remember - for all.
Smoke in your own home. Get cancer. Die.This, ironically, was from the same guy who elsewhere professed to be happy that smokers were outside, away from "decent" people.
Just keep it away from me, that's all I ask.
daviduk84
12:27pm
A couple more to further illustrate.
[...] let's have free loaded pistols for use by these smokers there too so that they can end their pathetic lives in a dignified way and save us and our already burdened health systems a lot of problems.Right, I think you get the gist.
tjtwatterjones
10:49am
"But what about the rights of smokers?"
They have the right to die. That's it.
davycrockett
11:20am
As is customary with procrastination, it's an idea I wish I'd started a lot earlier. Because since July 2007 (in fact, since the Health Act was passed), a lot of water has passed under the bridge, and thousands of equally hideous insults, threats, disgusting ad homs, and inhuman ill-wishing has slipped by without record.
For example, I vaguely remember one - possibly the standard bearer for all such bile-spitting - which simply stated the erudite caps-locked opinion, "SMOKERS. DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! [repeated 30+ times]".
The great thing is ... anyone can join in. If you spot a suitable admission, simply scroll to the "Psycho Antis" tag on the right to bring up a cataloguing post (yes, there is only one at the moment but I'm thinking ahead) and add your 'find' in the comments. I may even cobble together a sidebar badge to lead you straight there.
Just a few guidelines (we do so hate rules here):
1) When adding your quote, please provide a link/URL to where the original can be found.
2) Keep to the egregious type of insult (eg. die, cancer, poison, rot, stupidity etc), as if we listed every one it would run into tens of thousands in a couple of weeks.
3) Avoid the clichés (eg. urinate on you, fart in your face etc.), we want imaginitive psychotic utterances please, not just dull regurgitation.
That's about it. So if you ever spot anything, anywhere, so objectionable that it deserves wider recognition, pop it over here and when we have enough, we can vote on a top ten of the vilest **.
Then scatter, my pretties, to the dark bowels of righteousness and seek evil wherever it may be found (not sure it'll take much seeking, to be honest).
** And the whole thing would make a great list to send to MPs too, doncha think?
108 comments:
I'd be far more worried about the deranged lunatics who write things like that rather than any smoker. They do more damage, put it that way.
Paul, I agree 110%, although yours is way too sensible an opinion when discussing anti-smoking rhetoric. The same tactics are used by animal-rights activists and other misanthropes.
Dick, I recall how the hate ramped up to the smoking ban and vaguely remember the extremist comment you mention. My jaw dropped when I read it then.
What is wrong with people?
What a brilliant idea. And an even more brilliant one to send the best off to anti-smoking MP's so they can see the kind of "supporters" they are encouraging.
How sick is this.
This smoker sniper game does exactly what it says, you're a sniper and its your mission to go out and kill every smoker. Its an easy game to play and the instructions are simple "Kill the guy, he's a smoker." As your sniper killing spree success rate improves you get to earn money which you can spend on weapon upgrades. You might even get promoted and as you gain higher ranks, even more sniper and other equipment become available. But basically its about killing. Go kill the smoker before cancer does. After you play this free smoker sniper game, why not check out and play our other
http://www.purely-games.com/smoker_sniper_game.html
@ Anon 01.31.
The thing is - unintended consequences. ASH, BMJ,CRUK etc did not realise that they had stirred up a hornets nest. Everywhere that the smoking ban comes up for discussion, the antis reveal themselves to be stupid, ignorant, belligerent, fools.
The more that these arseholes are encouraged to vent their feelings, the better. Thus we will see that the useful fools in parliament will be seen to be on the side of the nazi element in our society.
Bring on the smoking ban in cars! Bring on the ban on drinking alcohol in public! Bring on the ban on footballers spitting on the football pitch!
We are already seeing, as a result of the smoking ban, people questioning the reasoning behind the ban on recreational drugs.
(Isn't aspirin a drug?)
Unintended consequences, you see.
I often find that most of the people who are so anti-smoking/anti-fat peopple are aggressive thugs who want any excuse to beat someone up. I get abused more often by thuggish yobs than by normal people.
Nice to see that MPs are on the side of these people rather than the law-abiding.
This ones a complete nutcase I laughed at first ....
http://www.justrage.com/article.php/i_hate_smokers/print
And another
http://twitter.com/Nard246/status/20040166864
"Nice to see that MPs are on the side of these people rather than the law-abiding."
Exactly, Anon. ;)
And thanks for a couple of good examples already from the last two comments. Duly logged.
Sniper game??? Maybe a screen grab of that may be in order.
Back in January I put together a list of things written by antismokers in comments under an article the Telegraph, in
Antismokers Speak Out. It was something I'd been meaning to do for years.
This one from the comments to your article deserves special mention, Frank.
"Pubs have become infinitely more pleasant places since the smoking ban. [...] they can certainly survive without smokers. I hope the cold winter kills a few more off in fact"
The Telegraph
"Responses by nicotine addicts suggest that heir brain cells are dead and they are ignorant, abusive and don't care who they harm as long as getting high is on for their selfish selves."
LucyQ 18/8/10 11:38am
They just keep coming.
I hope this one (from the same thread on smoking in cars) is parodic.... If it's not, I think we've discovered the online identity of Arnott and Schenker.
ieclark
18 Aug 2010, 11:13AM
Anyone doing anything unhealthy that might reduce their lifespan should be shot.
The ieclark comment is definitely ironic - and very funny. He frequently comments on Guardian articles about smoking and is very much pro-choice.
Unfortunately he also suspects me of being a shill for Big Tobacco as that's all I ever post about on there - but honestly, can you think of any other topic in the Guardian worth talking about?
There was an item in Science Daily a couple of days ago about how the ozone air fresheners installed to cover tobacco smoke in many places actually do more harm than the tobacco. They have these things at our doctor's and the chest belt it gives me is much worse than my uncle's old thick twist in his pipe.
here's some crackers from CBS commenting on Mayor Bloomberg introducing a policy to ban smoking in parks and on beaches.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/22/bloomberg-mulling-over-smoking-ban-at-nyc-parks-beaches/
A sample:
"jack fisher
yeah!!!! screw the smokers!!! ban it everywhere"
"Nick
BAN SMOKING, it’s sick, it’s disgusting, it stinks like sh….. and I have to breathe that in because some selfish d-bag 20 ft away is lighting up?"
"Jay
Go Bloomberg! Smokers need to have the words, STUPID IDIOT across their foreheads! When they can stop their smoke and fumes from spreading and stop forcing others to breathe the poisonous fumes, then they can continue smoking. I DO NOT want to smell it or be FORCED to breathe it ANYWHERE. Smokers are too dumb to realize these non-smoking laws are trying to save their lives. Idiots,"
"Flyhigher
I think that Bloomberg deserves a medal for his anit-smoking crusade…
Smoking kills millions Americans every year, and the sad fact about this figure is the non-smokers that die because of second hand smoke… There is no safe place to “light up” when it comes to smoking, and it should be banned Nation wide…"
"peter marton
Only a dumb ass smokes himself into an early grave.
If you smoke you should pay extra for your health care instead of freeloading on others peoples health care costs."
"Jan
SMOKERS, PLEASE die from diseases from cigarettes sooner rather than later, so there will be less of you around, stinking up every place you go."
"Jay
Hope Bloomberg gets this through, smokers push their smoke and fumes on EVERYONE around them, we are ALL forced to breathe and smell the stinking things"
"D. Ronstad
I’m sitting at a stoplight. I smell cigarett smoke. I have all my windows rolled up. The driver in the car next to me is smoking. Keep it in your vehicle. Poison yourself, your kids, your pets — not me."
But the comment that really takes the cake is in the article itself.
"“Non-smokers can smell smoke from miles and miles away, so ban it!” Cynthia Keller-Bee, of the Upper East Side, said."
Enraged
here's some crackers from CBS commenting on Mayor Bloomberg introducing a policy to ban smoking in parks and on beaches.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/22/bloomberg-mulling-over-smoking-ban-at-nyc-parks-beaches/
A sample:
"jack fisher
yeah!!!! screw the smokers!!! ban it everywhere"
"Nick
BAN SMOKING, it’s sick, it’s disgusting, it stinks like sh….. and I have to breathe that in because some selfish d-bag 20 ft away is lighting up?"
"Jay
Go Bloomberg! Smokers need to have the words, STUPID IDIOT across their foreheads! When they can stop their smoke and fumes from spreading and stop forcing others to breathe the poisonous fumes, then they can continue smoking. I DO NOT want to smell it or be FORCED to breathe it ANYWHERE. Smokers are too dumb to realize these non-smoking laws are trying to save their lives. Idiots,"
"Flyhigher
I think that Bloomberg deserves a medal for his anit-smoking crusade…
Smoking kills millions Americans every year, and the sad fact about this figure is the non-smokers that die because of second hand smoke… There is no safe place to “light up” when it comes to smoking, and it should be banned Nation wide…"
"peter marton
Only a dumb ass smokes himself into an early grave.
If you smoke you should pay extra for your health care instead of freeloading on others peoples health care costs."
"Jan
SMOKERS, PLEASE die from diseases from cigarettes sooner rather than later, so there will be less of you around, stinking up every place you go."
"Jay
Hope Bloomberg gets this through, smokers push their smoke and fumes on EVERYONE around them, we are ALL forced to breathe and smell the stinking things"
"D. Ronstad
I’m sitting at a stoplight. I smell cigarett smoke. I have all my windows rolled up. The driver in the car next to me is smoking. Keep it in your vehicle. Poison yourself, your kids, your pets — not me."
But the comment that really takes the cake is in the article itself.
"“Non-smokers can smell smoke from miles and miles away, so ban it!” Cynthia Keller-Bee, of the Upper East Side, said."
Enraged
Some crackers here from the USA.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/22/bloomberg-mulling-over-smoking-ban-at-nyc-parks-beaches/
"jack fisher
yeah!!!! screw the smokers!!! ban it everywhere"
"Nick
BAN SMOKING, it’s sick, it’s disgusting, it stinks like sh….. and I have to breathe that in because some selfish d-bag 20 ft away is lighting up?"
"Jay
Go Bloomberg! Smokers need to have the words, STUPID IDIOT across their foreheads! When they can stop their smoke and fumes from spreading and stop forcing others to breathe the poisonous fumes, then they can continue smoking. I DO NOT want to smell it or be FORCED to breathe it ANYWHERE. Smokers are too dumb to realize these non-smoking laws are trying to save their lives. Idiots,"
"Flyhigher
I think that Bloomberg deserves a medal for his anit-smoking crusade…
Smoking kills millions Americans every year, and the sad fact about this figure is the non-smokers that die because of second hand smoke… There is no safe place to “light up” when it comes to smoking, and it should be banned Nation wide…"
"peter marton
Only a dumb ass smokes himself into an early grave.
If you smoke you should pay extra for your health care instead of freeloading on others peoples health care costs."
"Jan
SMOKERS, PLEASE die from diseases from cigarettes sooner rather than later, so there will be less of you around, stinking up every place you go."
"Jay
Hope Bloomberg gets this through, smokers push their smoke and fumes on EVERYONE around them, we are ALL forced to breathe and smell the stinking things"
"D. Ronstad
I’m sitting at a stoplight. I smell cigarett smoke. I have all my windows rolled up. The driver in the car next to me is smoking. Keep it in your vehicle. Poison yourself, your kids, your pets — not me."
But the comment that really takes the cake is in the article itself.
"“Non-smokers can smell smoke from miles and miles away, so ban it!” Cynthia Keller-Bee, of the Upper East Side, said."
Enraged
Jason Grant says:
@ Brittney - You are second-class citizens. If you don't like it, move. I don't want you here anyway.
Posted On: Friday, Sep. 10 2010 @ 1:51PM
From here.
Logan9773
Smokers are idiots. They know that smoking will kill them and they are a drag on our health care system. We should do them a favor and give them a quick clean bullet through the head.
September 16, 2010 at 3:26 pm
From here.
Once, water from my umbrella "accidentally" spilled on a smoker right next to me, in a bus stop. He got extremely offended. Well, it was just WATER, idiot!! He was throwing me a constant stream of CARCINOGENS!!
http://squiishie.blogspot.com/2005/04/smoking-smells-worse-than-butt.html
Jordan Joab
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=249424
What's the ETA on the global smoking ban? I'd like to know when we can get rid of smokers. Also, since we are on this topic, maybe the Gov. can place a 300% tax on cigarrette sales. Hell, I'll even go ahead and say smokers should be labeled terrorists since they terrorize my lungs and threaten my health.
http://jyte.com/cl/smokers-should-be-shot
Cigarette Smokers Should Be Racked and Tortured
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2200547009
I like watching recent American TV police shows where the guy who smokes gets shot. That'll teach him.
Ballinger
1 October 2010 12:54PM
Smokers are generally selfish, childish bastards
ElfinSafety
1 October 2010 1:02PM
Not only should smokers be forced to clock in and out, they should be forced to have a shower and clean their teeth so other people don't have to put up with the stench.
Dingaan
1 October 2010 2:55PM
Have you seen them, they drop thir cigarette stubs and walk on like baboons discarding banana skins. Provide vats of slime for them to stand in when they smoke then just dismiss them for time wasting
stripedone
1 October 2010 7:20PM
Crusty leather-skinned tar-ridden ash-tray mouthed, dogs-bottom-mouth, chimney-faced horrors the lot of them.
thebitterpill
1 October 2010 11:36PM
All from here.
if you want to smoke, live on an island by yourself and spare the rest of us from your filthy habit.
I Love Smoking Posted at 12:26 PM September 22, 2010
It's about time the govt started to get serious about getting rid of smokers.
DGC Posted at 1:26 PM September 22, 2010
Smokefree 39..Simple solution, grab a bucket of water scream FIRE, FIRE and tip it over his head.
Jay Ar of Bush Bay North Posted at 3:01 PM September 22, 2010
Smokers look at your disgusting skin and lines on your face. If that is not enough to make you give up, smell yourself
Bob Posted at 3:42 PM September 22, 2010
enjoy your emphysema clowns, and keep your smoke to your own festering, brown walled, putrid holes. Suck it in suckers...and have a nice day y'all!
Duke (cough!) Posted at 10:33 PM September 22, 2010
Two examples of staggering anti-smoking idiocy from Captain Ranty.
Momma Bear, and the truly disgusting anti.
From the founder of the facebook "Smokers should be racked and tortured" group:
"They are the worst. There is nothing worse than walking to class at nine in the morning with a smoker infront of you blowing smoke all over you. I want all smoker dead, but especially morning smokers and any one who smokes on campus. DIE!!"
I'm intrigued by the frequency with which anti-smokers use the "there's nothing worse than..." tag (there was an example in the Wail comments the other day). Do they really mean that there is literally nothing worse that can happen to them than smelling a bit of smoke? If so, they've either led very sheltered and fortunate lives or else they're insane.
smokers are the lepers of our society and are treated as such.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/10/15/nl-mun-smoking-1015.html#socialcomments#ixzz12QRgS1B2
From Iain Dale's blog:
March 21, 2008 9:51 AM , Anonymous said...
I hate smoking and I hate smokers, the ban couldn't come quick enough for me.Best thing to happen for years.
Smokers scum of the Earth, a cull next.
Jeez there are a few here in the comments
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewmcfbrown/100060639/the-pope-the-president-and-now-nick-clegg-the-world-is-run-by-ex-smokers/#dsq-content
They deserve to be robbed.
Smoking is great! It is nature's way of ridding the world of losers and undesirables. That is why when I see someone smoking I feel so urged to buy them a pack of the filterless kind that kills and kills and kills :D
Says a nicotine addicted idiot.
Fun from Jersey:
GTR
I think only “SCUM” smokes, and proceeds to toss it out of their car window.
I have always looked down at the “filth” or brown fingered,brown teethed lower classes that smoke.
Then again its usually the same “SCUM” that congregate in a group on the pavement outside the pub with their council house looks and track suit tops and filthy jeans.
“Yes” i have the right to make such judgements when classy ladies have to walk on to the road into the path of an oncoming car, because these “disgusting dirty men”
block the pavement passing “cheap”remarks to the female poulation as they pass.
Let me tell you something scumbags!
Nobody wants to kiss your fag,beer breath!!!
Oops, link for previous addition
Found this charming chap on my travels -
"I hate smokers and I’m sure all other non-smokers hate them, too. They’re blowing money and years off their life on stupid, dried-up leaves of poison. And then they have the nerve of blowing it in the faces of non-smokers and acting like they’re superior than them. I’ve hated smokers for many years and I am almost positive that one day, I will successfully kill someone who smokes. I encourage any non-smokers who are reading this to go out and kick the shit out of smokers."
Link
I love the way he claims smokers are ignorant!!
Just browsing The Age and came across a smoking story. In the comments was this (left in all its original, hate filled and misspelled glory):
"why dont they all just gove the smokers 28 days to live the rest of their lives and say farewell to their loved ones, and then just shoot the lot of them..."
Dave | Melbourne - September 13, 2010, 10:27AM
Also this:
"Next stop, don't allow smokers medicare coverage because the 80% of us who DON'T smoke have to pay for the 20% who chose to choose to kill themselves slowly!"
luke | perth - September 13, 2010, 10:32AM
And
"If a person is caught smoking, he or she should be shot on sight. The world would be a better place!"
REVOLTED | EARTH - September 13, 2010, 11:05AM
I couldn't be bothered to look any further but the little ray of hope is that a number of non-smoking commenters had chipped in to say that things have really gone too far. Sadly they're in the minority, and the majority seem unable to understand that the banners will eventually turn their attention to something that they enjoy.
Twats.
Wow, AE, those are psycho gems! The Aussies appear to be leading the race in insane fruitcakery.
See Cherie's posts in the comments here, for example.
Grandad: Yes, I've seen that crazed loon before. He does set a very high bar for anti-smoker murderous rage ... but with government backing them all the way, they are pushing the envelope month by month. We'll see a worthy champion to top that soon. ;)
Spotted by Longrider.
"Yes... I hate it when I'm waiting for the bus and someone decides to arrive and then have a smoke right next to you.... they don't just kill themselves but everyone around them... they might as well bring a knife a stabe people cos its the same affect!!!!"
From here
More lunacy from Down Under in the comments on this article:
"Smokers are not 'rebels' - they are zombie death-slaves, paying multi-national conglomerates to injure and kill them."
markyb | bondi - November 29, 2010, 7:44AM
This bugger has fallen for the denormalisation thing hook, line, sinker, rod and tackle box. Smoker's are not human. They're not people who've made a personal choice. They're "zombie death slaves". So put that in your pipes and smoke it... except don't, obviously, because you'll make more zombies or something.
Comment left after Rich Whites piece in the Graun..
The hospitals should stick you all in a room full of herring so you can make kippers while you kill yourselves. At least it would be productive.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/joepublic/2010/nov/30/smokers-forced-out-of-hospitals
Is this the kind of thing you're looking for?
Bald headed John.
Kevin of Perth Posted at 10:25 AM
Bloody disgusting....... I should not have to pay for those weak-willed people who are too lazy and stupid to stop smoking. We should not be paying for their cancer treatments either..... let them die from their self inflicted diseases!
Comment 59
A cracker in the Telegraph here. No direct link possible for the comment unfortunately, it's on page 2 at time of writing.
petal
Let them pay their taxes, let them die young sounds like win win :)
From an article on Cyprus, but almost certainly posted by a Brit (it's the nature of the English-speaking online source).
Tue, December 21st 2010 at 17:35
alex g grant from cyprus comments:
Bad smells, bad breath, choking air, horribly ugly smelling cloths, discoloured fingers and teeth,possibly unhealthy babies, stinking houses and homes, ash pit smelling cars, discoloured skin. Need i go on, you silly people who smoke, disgust the two thirds who do not smoke. This may be a big turn off for punters who sit or stand near you guys/gals in pubs. You may not believe it, but you really do stink. Yuch!!
Y'know, looking at some of the comments from the anti smoking brigade, it's clear that these inadequate, joyless morons would not have been out of place had they lived in Nazi Germany. In fact, I could actually picture them proudly wearing their smart, black Waffen SS uniforms.
Not only that, but I'm pretty sure the Nazis used a similar tactic to dehumanise the Jews to the wider German population. With the comments posted by the 'Anti's', you could easily substitute the word 'smoker' with the word 'Jew'.
The thing that really annoys me about these numpties, is that they probably consider themselves to be liberals who are both tolerant and respectful toward others. They are nothing of the sort. In my experience, people like that are the worst kind of human being on the planet.
Hate filled and intolerant, they will brook no argument. They will accept no attempt at reasoned debate, preferring instead to resort to insults and threats when you try it. Yet they consider themselves superior to people who support the BNP or the EDL, calling them fascists. Well, it takes one to know one.
If I was to apply the same kind of rabid hatred to a member of one of the UK's minority groups, I would be arrested, charged and have the book thrown at me. And rightly so. But this bunch of small minded, hate filled, ignorant hypocrites are allowed to continue their discrimination with impunity.
Smoking is not simply a lifestyle choice. Sure, we all made the decision to try those first few cigarettes, but smoking is also an addiction. Furthermore, I've heard it said that smoking is harder to quit than heroine. The difference is, the 'anti's' consider junkies to be victims. Victims who commit crimes such as burglary and shoplifting to pay for their addiction, but victims all the same.
To the anti's, a heroine addict is to be pitied, empathised with, given all the chances and assistance necessary for them to beat their addiction. A cigarette addict however, is someone to be reviled. To the anti's, a cigarette addict is someone even less desirable than a paedophile. We don't deserve any help to quit our addiction, we're actually a drain on the health service (us and the obese). The argument that we actually pay more tax than non smokers, is a cliche. They also ignore the fact that, generally, we don't commit crime in order to satisfy our addiction.
One day, I will quit smoking. Hopefully before I do too much damage to my body, but it will be MY choice. Until that day, I will take immense pleasure in sticking two fingers up to the anti's.
A classic from today's BBC Have Your Ill Informed Rant about the Spanish smoking ban taking effect
4. At 11:22am on 02 Jan 2011, Ron C wrote:
As a non-smoker, i`m fed up with the arrogance of smokers having taken over doorway entrances ouside pubs, cafes, especially hospitals, banks just about anywhere. There they are huddled together like penguins, dragging away surrounded in smoke as though the last fag was going out of production, as for trying to get past them, virtually no chance-even if you excuse yourself without getting the gas, cough or some remark that indicates they have this patch and you are a nuisance. Tighten up the laws make them smoke away from doorways and entrances, second lung smoke ugh, give me a bucket.
Second Lung Smoke! a brand new one on me - perhaps a darwinian evolutionary response?
I just blogged on something in the Port Phillip Leader about the council going after outdoor café areas but I wanted to pass you a quotes from the comments there.
"Smokers who walk around residential streets are anoying killers too as they allow the deadly poison onto everyone they pass and into homes if the windows or doors are open to allow "fresh" air in. Smokers should be give a lower priority at public hospitals with higher priority being given to people with non self inflicted illnesses."
"Smoking parents kill or irrevocably damage their babies."
Yes, 'TheGhostofOtto1923' really did say that here.
A cracker, this.
"Cigars are for men who have a fantasy of giving BJs"
The cleaner,
21/01/2011 15:49:07
From here
Very quickly followed by ...
Finbarr Saunders,
21/01/2011 16:47:28
I love how all the dirty, smelly, selfish, self-centred, bitter smokers make comparisons between their smoke and the fumes from vehicles.
Go away and cough up some black phlegm and stop talking tripe!
This one's a bit of a bile-raiser:
mr.marsden, Bradford says...
9:49am Tue 11 Jan 11
Maybe landlords should get their smokers out the back where they can't be seen. These sad characters in their tatty clothing standing around front doors aren't exactly an advert for a pub or for drinking. Anybody with half a brain looks at them and equates drinking and smoking with poverty and losers.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8780370.MPs_backing_call_to_lift_smoking_ban/?ref=rss
x
Crikey! There are dozens of the cockroaches in this Aussie piece. Pride of place to this, though.
Philip of Perth Posted at 11:48 AM January 23, 2011
#19, yes agree with Bradski, smokers reeks of stale tobacco and bad breath, they should be banned from crowded palces even when not smoking.
I think the term 'whinging Poms' can now be retired since there are so many effete incapable weeds over there nowadays. ;)
Many, many gems here:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-is-third-hand-smoke#commentForm
42. angelo 01:37 PM 1/9/09
If you think that (THS) is only faith.Why the families who smoke outdoor has children with more frequencies of ALTE , SIDS, Oral breathing, Cerebral disfunction, Hyperkinesia Syndrome, Lower IQ, lower scores at collegue. At present Diabetic-Obesity epidemic and so on.Thanks to ePediatrics for this articles. (I�m a Pediatrician 63y who lives at Santiago Chile.
47. uridev 02:32 PM 1/11/09
A year ago a friend and his brother borrowed their mothers car to get us to the airport. We were making a short trip from New Zealand to Australia. She smoked in that car, none of us are smokers. We were feeling more and more ill inside the car from the smell and we all had our windows open. By the time we made the 30 minute journey we were all nauseous, slightly light headed, and sick to our stomachs. Although smokers may be be angry about this I have noted we only feel angry when we hear truth in a statement
51. Non-Smoker 03:48 PM 1/14/09
Okay, someone should just say it...we should remove all smokers from society. Smokers are bad for society as a whole. Why not move all of them to a desginated State and let them live and die together and save the rest of us from the evils of smoking. In fact the more I think if it I like the idea and I'm sure a smoker would like to live with others of their own kind. After all they ARE different than non-smokers, they pose a risk to the health of EVERYONE around them, just like drunk drivers and gang members and many more things in society that are bad for us normal people.
73. Vickij592000@yahoo.com 02:49 AM 4/2/09
I'm a true believer in third-hand smoke, and I'm not even a child. At work I had to share a telephone with a smoker. I developed breathing problems, had a swelling in my mouth, and also had a "suspicious" breast biopsy. I started cleaning the phone off with "Wet Ones" wipes. My swelling went away, plus my breathing problems went away. Still have to be tested again to see if my biopsy is benign, but I'm pretty optimistic.
74. lmindy 03:37 PM 4/14/09
I am living proof that the dangers of third-hand smoke exist. I have suffered tremendously due to inconsiderate relatives smoking and then coming in to my house. I have such a sensitivity to cigarette smoke that I had laryngitis almost consistently for two years before finally discovering what the trigger was. I even developed polyps on my vocal cords due to this condition. Once I finally figured out what the trigger was, I was able to put a stop to this vicious cycle. While my vocal cords have recovered due to the entirely smoke free environment ( I no longer allow smokers in my house, period!) I still have incidents of sensitivity when exposed, involuntarily I might add. Third-hand smoke is a very real danger. I look forward to the day when we are a nation that is entirely smoke free.
77. larryhj in reply to catyk 02:29 PM 5/8/09
Have you ever smelled the home, car, clothing or person of a smoker? If you smell it, you breathe it. Yes, Virginia, there is a health risk associated with third hand smoke , but no Santa Clause. My 5 year old granddaughter is in the hospital right now as a result of third hand smoke. She is unable to maintain her O2 levels. Her mother only smokes outside yet still brings the cocktail into her home where a sweet little girl nearly subcummed to the affects of low oxygen levels. As science has proven time and time again, tabacco smoke impedes the blood's ability to attach oxygen molecules and transport them to the cells. Whether one inhales it from a butt or off the hair and clothing of a smoker, the fact remains that it kills.
84. row 10:20 PM 8/21/09
I recently got a wood dresser and it smells like smoke. I'm not sure if I should just try to get rid of it because their will always be trace amounts of toxins in it or if I should try to neutralize it using various techniques. If it airs out for long enough/is scrubbed hard enough would it be ok? Or maybe if I take the finish off and then refinish it?
88. CDiamente 09:30 PM 10/14/09
Have studies on smoker's breath been done to measure carcinogenic substances that they exhale after having smoked? I find that my sinuses clog up when around my fiance, who never smokes around me but comes inside as soon as the cigarette is out. I am a cancer survivor (breast) and both parents died of lung cancer. I am sure that the lungs must still emit some of the carcinogens even after smoking has stopped. Who has research on this?
89. cali1987 04:30 PM 10/22/09
I work at a bar where they smoke cigars and ciggs [ed. note: where on earth would you find a bar that allows smoking?]. i dont personally smoke but I do come home to my 18 month old reeking of the smoke. Is there anything I can do to protect her from the toxins.? Would showering the moment I come home (washing hair etc.) and putting clothes into bag in closet till I do laundry? would that get rid of the toxins or???
99. andrewz28 12:34 PM 2/9/10
Interesting...I tend to agree with the concept of third hand smoke. From my observations I would like to see a study regarding medical personnel that smoke and then have direct contact with the patient. I see people at work all the time that violate the "sterile" concept by going outside to smoke and then they return to the operating room area in the very same scrubs that they were wearing outside the hospital while they were smoking, yuk. The same person that is standing over you while you are cut wide open has these same carcinogens all over their body, clothes and this stuff is dropping into your body. I bet this is going on everywhere..
No psychoses to leave, just an observation on those left by the last 2-3 Anons. Oh, dear Jesus H pipe-smoking Christ on a trampoline. If this becomes the typical mindset of the human race then it's fucked beyond repair - a couple of million years will see the descendants of these illiberal frothing cocktrumpets crawling backwards into the ocean, and deservedly fucking so if you ask me. In the meantime I'm starting to think those who smoke are going to need means to defend themselves.
The needle on my misanthropy gauge has just spun off the end of the dial and nearly nailed the dog to the wall. 'Kinell!
Turing word: bolockin. Nearly so very apt.
• Mamer
September 3rd, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Ajax,
Your “Live Free or Die” only pertains to smokers I suppose, right? Are you friggin kidding me! How can a non-smoker live “Free” as you say when they are constantly being killed each day by second and third hand smoke! WE as NON-SMOKERS are basically told, tough luck. How’s that living free you moron! So, I guess we’re to just roll over and let you cancerous, diseased, psychologically damaged, pieces of dirt screw up the air I and other NON-SMOKING people breathe in to our lungs everyday? What are you, 2? If smokers are having some kind of psychological issues that cause them to smoke in the first place, it’s not my issue…go get professional help and if you tell me you can’t afford it, then quit purchasing cigarettes and you’ll be able to afford the psychological care!
A cracker from Buzz Bishop HERE.
"The best part about smokers is that they’re killing themselves off before the rest of us.
Eventually, they’ll be extinct.
Darwin’s magic personified."
Here's a novel approach. The smoker as a sub-species ...
JFW,
03/02/2011 16:43:30
"I do hope never to be treated by an NHS worker who is stupid enough to be a smoker; it's worrying that some people that you might be forced to rely on in an emergency have such limited brain-power."
One from Wales:
showman1
9:08 AM on February 24, 2011
Smokers are the lowest form of life, I welcome anything which attempts to reduce their numbers. [...] taxing them to death is a better way of ridding us of these smelly people.
Found on Yahoo Answers:
I am an ardent anti smoker and I believe that people who smoke are mentally backward and I would never employ a smoker.
- Professor
The topic in that topix forum is ''Smoking Bans save lives'' The irony of it all is laughable!
from: http://www.topix.com/forum/toparts/smoking-ban/TSMKO6L0ETNSK8R6A/p31 #630 ''When I read any post made by a hard core smoker I hope they are unable to reproduce. They and their kind aren't needed, or wanted in todays world.''
From today's online Observer.
fibmac70
27 February 2011 9:11AM
Smokers, do not just feel underrated
You are also feared, despised and generally hated........
Couple from this DM article on plain packaging.
This is all pointless. The sad, raddled addicts who are hooked on smoking would crawl in the gutters and recycle fag ends to get their fix, so they are not going to worry about what's on the packet. No, far better to increase them to £20 per pack, charge anyone who exposes their children to smoke with child abuse, and refuse surgery on anyone with a smoking related disease until they have given up.
- You know it makes sense, the moral midlands, 7/3/2011 3:03
Who cares? Let the smokers make their choices, let them kill themselves, just make sure any NHS resources spent on them is stopped and the smoker has to pay for medical intervention themselves. The government needs to stop this bizarre "please stop smoking" / "smoke so we can get the revenues" contradiction. Just let supply meet demand, and let them all die. Concentrate on those of us who make better choices and want to live.
- Laura, London, 7/3/2011 2:50
Fortunately they're balanced by quite a lot of people who are sick of the bullying and challenging the myth that smokers cost more and don't deserve a service that they, like everyone else, have already paid for in advance.
D'oh! Stuffed up the link to the article. It's actually here.
Wow! Here's a quite insane person on the BBC.
John_from_Hendon
"Alternatively perhaps we could put something in the water (or more rationally the cancer sticks / coffin nails) that made smokers violently sick every time the took a puff (or in every twentieth fag)!
One last wheeze - once we have plain packaging compel manufacturers to put parts of diseased cancerous lungs randomly in every tenth packet rather than their evil product! Then show adds of smokers opening such packets in situations where they are trying to be sophisticated."
And again later in the thread.
"I prefer the option of poring scorn on smokers ghastly habit. Make smokers be subject to sets of practical jokes - for example vile diseased lungs in a packet of cigarettes on a random basis.
I would also hope that smokers were put to the bottom of all heath service queues - or that they should fear that this will happen."
That's going to be hard to beat.
One from The Teletubbygraph here by someone by the name of asterixorb. This one has practically reached the level of declaring smokers untermenschen.
"Smokers will smoke even if they have to get cigarettes off the internet or under the counter.
As long as they don't bother me with their foul smoke and breath they can die off as soon as they like.
Surely though, only the underclass now smokes?"
With a follow up to a comment on the underclass bit:
"The majority of smokers belong to the underclass. Fact.
Never-mind which class one is belonging to, or whether you are pro or anti-smoking."
Kraft durch Freude.
Here's one of several charming comments from the repellent "Saucy Jack", commenting on a Telegraph article about Kate Moss and the display ban:
"Should just up the tar content and get rid of the f*kn lot of you".
Disturbingly, this comment was "recommended" by seven other subhumans.
FURRIESGETREADY Wed Apr 20, 2011 04:46 pm PDT
smokers are like gays. they think everything is their right.screw other people, it's all about me. everytime i smell a cigarette or cigar when i am outside i just want to punch you worthless, selfish prickkks in the face.
From here
Breaking the smoking ban should carry the death penalty. Smoking is suicide and you will burn in hell.
Sent via tellyougov.com
16:48 on 4th March 2011
dasubergrok
"Smokers are evil, disgusting, vile creatures and should be exterminated like curs."
From here.
Hatred and violence rolled into one imaginative entry in the Mail. On a story only vaguely smoking-related, that's class psychosis. ;)
"I hate smokers, they think they have some sort of God given right to throw their filthy rubbish on the floor, should have their fingers broken as well."
- Michelle Harrison, Nottingham, 03/5/2011 17:04
More upside-down psychoses for you from the comments on this op-ed on the Liberal Party accepting donation from the tobacco industry (comments unfortunately closed without any exploration of whether Big Pharma make political donations and if so to whom). The first actually takes the trouble to do the antis' favourite theatrical cough in writing.
Dont worry Tony Abbott,-cough, cough, wheeze, splutter-keep taking the big Smoko money-cough,cough, gag- whats a little lung cancer now and then eh. ? Cough, cough.!
piesnchess | Dandenong. - May 19, 2011, 10:37AM
[...]
Ever noticed that smokers stink. Just imagine waking up next to someone who reeks. It would make me vomit into my weet bix. ...
Wheel | sydney - May 19, 2011, 4:21PM
Seen worse, and as usual there are a fair number of comments supporting the smokers, but cough cough guy just had to be shared.
A cracker this:
"Greg Cellamare · New York, New York
I pray for one of two things:
1) Smoking is banned everywhere, and/or.
2) All you dirtbag fat, smelly smokers polluting my air get cancer and fu*king die a quick, painful death."
From here
"jamie
And that's fine. Let the smokers die sooner if they really want to kill themselves with cigarettes. Just let's do all we can to slow down the uptake of smokers in the first place."
While the evidence for passive smoking might be unclear, I think the link between anti-smoking and mental illness is a fairly clear one.
One from Orphans of Liberty, of all places, and satisfyingly on an article entitled The self-righteousness of the anti-smoker. As is customary, it was cowardly posted two days after anyone who would have taken them to task had moved on.
Stephen on June 5, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Hell I’d actually give you money to buy more cigarettes if that would hasten your death and lessen the incessant whining.
QED.
Some lovely comments from a WAtoday/Fairfax piece nicotine being an appetite suppressant (hooray, fights obesity epidemic, but also boo, comes from nasssty nasssty fagsss, gollum gollum).
Smokers are weak minded defectives. There's also plenty of fat smokers too. If I were consul and you smoked in public and/or your smoke was anywhere near a normal person you would be badly beaten.
Gordon Akman | Broadbeach - June 10, 2011, 10:49AM
Lovely, Gordon, and in turn I hope that your eyes fall out and you kneel on them while you're trying to find them.
Only losers smoke. It doesn't matter whether they are thin of fat, they are all losers.
The One - June 10, 2011, 11:09AM
Also a lot of morons who didn't actually read the article and thought it was saying that it was a defence of smoking, which is pretty fucking unlikely in a Fairfax piece, which might be the reason a voice of sanity posted this:
Whenever an article is posted which has anything to do with smoking, plain packaging etc, so many of the same old people jump on to these comments to reiterate their low opinion of smokers generally. That they are hopeless, losers, ugly, stupid, etc. Have you got nothing better to do?
My business - June 10, 2011, 1:28PM
I would have said something similar but as is often the case with Fairfax publications comments get shut down fairly quickly.
Response to a beautifully-written article on the spiritual pleasure of smoking:
EW
You are a disgusting human being. I hope you never have children and poison them with your cancer sticks. Get a life.
From facebook's latest anti-smoking bandwagon, I Hate Smokers:
Alan Slinn: "Actually I do hate smokers. You are inconsiderate people with a filthy habit and you force your stench on all those around you. I liked this group because I HATE SMOKERS. Scum"
Ok, bad, not too horrendous...how about
this:
Jackson Airey: "I like to punch smokers in the face."
Ouch...straight to the point....well as long as you don't do it near me...
Just in case you could still feel the faint glimmer of humanity within your hollow, tar-stained innards, One Mark Saw had this to add:
"I used to hate smokers, but now I have realised they are just addicted wretches who can't help themselves from destroying everything they love and they need our help to pull themselves out of their pit of depravity and regain human status."
So, you've now been threatened, insulted and had your social standing reduced to that of a junkie. How about something patronizing?
My personal favorite was actually the title of this post, predictably middle-of-the-road p.c. rhetoric in the form of:
"Hey smokers don't be offended, we don't hate you, we just hate WHAT you do."
And that one insult to my intelligence is enough to make me attempt to track down the 106,358 people who liked that group to personally blow a thick, silky cloud of hand-rolled, filterless perfection all over them...
http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Hate-Smokers/107459121259?ref=ts
Only recently found your blog by the way, and I like it a lot. Cheers.
Wonderful comment from this article:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jun/24/ban-electronic-cigarettes-smokers
"Smokers the heroes of the world?
Well, since they're terrorists who primarily target themselves I'd choose them in preference to those who want to annihilate a nation because they want their land, any day, but I do ask them to commit suicide where I'm not in range of their offensive odour."
"Smokers are terrorists." Classic.
Excellent collection! My own contribution might not seem like much on first reading:
"It's just another good reason not to smoke,"
Maybe not even when I can note that it was made by an actual policeman rather than just an internet blogger.
BUT... when you see the context I think you'll agree it qualifies rather well:
===
November 26, 2009 6:48:58 PM by walkerk
REDWOOD CITY — A South San Francisco man faces attempted murder charges for stabbing his roommate in the face and neck after a disagreement about smoking on a balcony turned violent, officials said.
Bernie Castro, 58, started arguing with his 48-year-old roommate after the man left the balcony door open in the first block of Gardiner Avenue while he had a cigarette on Nov. 11, said South San Francisco Sgt. Joni Lee. The roommate, who has shared a house with Castro for three years, came back in after the cigarette and opened some windows.
The arguing escalated to violence when Castro allegedly punched the victim in the mouth. Lee said the fight stopped there and the victim went into his room for about 30 minutes.
But after he went out to smoke another cigarette, the arguing started up again. This time, however, Castro pulled out a folding knife and began attacking his roommate, Lee said. He was stabbed about eight times in the head, neck and face but is expected to recover, she added.
"It's just another good reason not to smoke," Lee said.
===
- MJM
Very funny exchange here on prison planet ,pasted below.
rob l Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 7:18 am
I have mixed feelings on this.
On one hand it limits the freedom of a select group of people which isn’t good and this could lead to other bans.
On the other hand, I detest smoking and smokers and don’t think everyone should have to suffer because they are morons who want to pay to get cancer and I also hate how they use the world as their ashtray.
It should be that they can smoke out in public but if another person is around and asks them to move or not smoke and the smoker gives sass and refuses then they should be:
-fined
-free to beat the shit out of
-free to pee on
The last may sound weird but I have always wondered why I can’t just go take a piss on a smoker. After all they are harming my health so why can’t I just go piss on them? My urine won’t have the same impact their smoking does so it seems fine to me.
Awaywithyou Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:30 am
See, i ride a bicycle and I think the same about people who drive their stinking cars everywhere they go, and hey, they are harming my health more than any smoker can.
The fact that you want to be free to beat the shit out of people who smoke just reveals what a fascist little git you are. You can even try it with me…..I’m a third Dan Jiu Jitsu and one aggresive move from you would mean that you won’t be pulling on your willy in your moms basement fro the next six months, because I will have dislocated both your shoulders within seconds.
I think people like you should be forced to use contraception, so that we don’t have to deal with your scummy offspring.
Thank you for your helpful contribution
tinfoilkathy Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Wow Rob. I guess you think you are ever so superior to us filthy smokers….beat the shit out of, pissed on? Wow. You are a moron. I guess you think heath is the highest morality there is like all the rest of the dumbass americans. Can’t think, don’t have fun…but they are healthy. Well guess what Ron? You are going to die just like the rest of us. Have fun in nonsmoking heaven. Greetings from conspiracy friend finder
Better still - just shoot smokers and put them out of their misery. What a bunch of whining sissies they are.
- RolloTomasi, Bangkok, Thailand, 12/7/2011 6:16
From here
don't blow your carp!
"I personal don't care if you kill your self and die slowly of cancer BUT don't blow your carp in the air I breath, drop your litter on the streets I walk on and stink up the elevator I have to travel in. If your so GROWN UP be responsible."
And from the same comment board:
"In other words persecute smokers, persecute big tobacco and don't apologize for it. I don't want filthy smokers ruining the air I breath. That is what should be done the only way to beat an enemy is to destroy it with prejudice. No half hearted measures they don't work. I look forward to smokers justifying their rights, go ahead make my day. If it pollutes the air I or anybody else breathes, you don't have any rights. Most of you are filthy butt dropping menaces and you stink."
It's encouraging to note that the majority of comments on this Australian article aren't a bit like these two.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/a-smokin-holiday-in-fiji/comments-e6freuy9-1226100494188
I received these comments from trackend on youtube the other day...
Please increase your intake of snouts as much as possible 80-90 a day should do the trick so you have fatal a heart attack rather than long lasting emphysema or cancer with all those bottles of oxygen and nursing care and using up inhalers every five paces. that way the rest of us won't have to foot such a big treatment bill & before you say it the amount raised in tax from fags does not even come close to covering the cost of treating smoking related complaints so please die quickly , thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFQ5YHo8Yg
He came back with more demonstrations of his ignorant bigotry before moving to another video and starting again with this bile...
he he Carry on I just hope all you deluded smokers who do get lung, throat, or mouth cancer to name a few items apart from the big killer heart attacks all brought on by smoking, remember how you defended smoking when you are asking for more morphine after half your face has been amputated a lung cut out or your larynx have been removed. I have seen the rough tough (my rights) smokers in agony & crying for help good luck you idiots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAWSDWFAyL4
I broke from tradition and blocked him. I don't like doing that because it feels like censorship, but I didn't want him using my channel as his personal hate board. He can go spread his bile elsewhere.
Quoted from the guardian, comments to article against plain packaging:
"Instead of messing around the government should show some gumption and criminalise smoking completely. It’s not that I mind people harming themselves, but what I cannot stand is the fact that smokers think it is their human right to gradually kill me as well.
The problem is, in my experience, that smokers simply do not believe that they will be the one that gets lung cancer. It doesn’t matter how many decomposing organs they are shown. This is the ignorance that marks your average smoker. They consider themselves above cancer.
It’s a pathetic sight to see these revolting creatures huddled outside offices in the horizontal rain. They justify it because they think it shows a rebellious streak. What they don’t realise is that they are being pushed to the edges of society—quite literally—because of their anti-social habit and rancid breath."
An exemplary entry on this Scotsman article:
33 Tartancult,
23/09/2011 00:54:29
I don't want smokers banned, I want them dead.
Cremation would be fitting.
Comment 61 here.
LF Posted at 12:11 PM 21/01/2012
Shoot all smokers..quick solution!
Some good ones in the Daily mail today.
Smokers disgust me. Me and my friends do see them as second class citizens. We all look down our noses at them and their disgusting and filthy habbit. We make sure they know it too.
- John Long, Liverpool, 28/2/2012 4:14
Click to rate Rating 195
Report abuseSmokers are disgusting and dirty outcasts. And it's only right that society should perceive them in that way given the extraordinary cost to the NHS of smoking related illnesses. The more undesirable and stigmatised smoking is the better for everyone, including the smokers themselves - one would hope that the stigma will encourage many to quit. That has to be a good thing.
- Mark, Ireland, 28/2/2012 3:21
Click to rate Rating 189
Report abuseEveryone knows that smoking is a trash behavior. If you are a smoker with a tatoo, I will stay far away from you. Stupid people have stupid habits. Poor people often have poor habits.....
- Milton Bradley, Boston, MA, 28/2/2012 3:25
Click to rate Rating 181
Report abuseGood, they are social lepers.
- Cowgirl, Calgary,Canada, 28/2/2012 5:58
Click to rate Rating 167
Report abusePoor, sad nicotine addicts. They can't make it through the day without their "hit". Paying someone else to kill them painfully and slowly. I see them as figures of pity.
- philip, Bletchley, 28/2/2012 4:36
Click to rate Rating 166
Report abuseI suspect lepers have better complexions than smokers! Come on girls, give up the tabs, your faces look like leather!
- Joan, Gateshead, UK, 28/2/2012 2:02
Click to rate Rating 156
Report abuseA drinker will fall down the stairs before a smoker will. - Richard, London, 28/2/2012 02:25----------------------------A drinker falling down the stairs doesn't hurt me provided I'm not on the step in front of him, but your smoke does... Typical smoker's comment....thinking only of number one!
- Boosmum, Merseyside, 28/2/2012 2:58
Click to rate Rating 145
Report abuse"live and let live" what a ridiculous hypocritical statement. Smokers make life unpleasant for millions of non smokers who have the right to breathe clean air. Children and the unborn have the right to be uncontaminated by selfish smokers. Hospitals and those who pay for them should not be burdened by the many diseases associated with smoking. SMOKERS STINK
- Steve, Dundee, 28/2/2012 6:50
Click to rate Rating 141
Report abuseLive and let die. No way. I hop into the lift at work and I have to put up with all the stench left over by the smokers. No smoking within 5 miles of the work place if I had my way.
- Fritz, Perth, 28/2/2012 4:52
Click to rate Rating 129
Report abuseI don't smoke.... But I want the right to chose! - noodles, Sydney / Essex, 28/2/2012 4:36--------------------I don't smoke but I want to the right to not have to breathe in smokers' cancerous emissions!
- Boosmum, Merseyside, 28/2/2012 5:09
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2107419/Anti-smoking-campaigns-turn-light-lepers-warns-Department-Health-adviser.html#ixzz1nfge6Cp3
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/health/article-2107419/Anti-smoking-campaigns-turn-light-lepers-warns-Department-Health-adviser.html
Here is the URL.
You forgot one, Dave.
Smoking *is* disgusting, it *is* dirty and the sooner the smokers drop dead and wither away, the better.
- Angry, United Kingdom, 28/2/2012 7:30
Ooh, this is a new angle. From the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17551568
750.
breuddwyd Smoking around children SHOULD BE seen as abhorent as paedophilia.
We could always just change the law to allow
people to legally shoot dead anyone caught with a cig between their lips
outside the four walls of their home, as long as it's not a rented home
or presently under mortgage, since it's not technically their home. If
people find a bullet through their head whenever they light up, they'll
not light up. Simples. Probably won't happen. I can dream though. God,
I'd have a field day if that ever came to pass...
- Ken, Kent, 6/4/2012 16:28
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2125978/Cigarettes-tobacco-disappear-supermarket-displays-today
gildedlil
Posted on Apr 8th, 2012
I have been a non--smoker all my life, but now I
have decided that I want to start smoking, especially because it is my right to
die a slow and painful death of lung cancer, a lifestyle I have chosen. I also
want gangrene, smokers breath, nicotine stained teeth, clogged arteries, turn
blind, have swollen gums, tooth decay, oral cancer, yellow-ish, pale skin,
nicotine stained fingers, smelly clothes, be a burden on the NHS, be intolerant
of non-smokers, suffer from emphysema, pollute the air, throw butts on the
ground, suffer from heart stroke, and god knows what.
Is there a brand you can recommend? I suppose all of them will have the same
effect, won't they? Please advise. Thanks. I am really looking to suffer from
all of the above and I am prepared to pay lots of money for glitzy packs of
fags. I am dying to smoke.
gildedlil
Posted on Apr 9th, 2012
it is very sad to see that people spend their time defending their addiction
rather than do something about it. i can only conclude that you are already on
your death beds with no hope for a cure left. otherwise you would not be
wasting your lives calling it freedom and choice. you have been brainwashed. if
you ever had brains in the first place.
would you like to be congratulated for killing yourselves? you eupehmistically
call this lifestyle choice. a choice to be a slave to your addiction? you keep
deluding yourselves and use the same jargon that big tobacco uses, an industry
that is killing million upon millions of users every year. an industry you
defend. what a sorry state this country is in to have to pay the medical costs
for people like you, where your measly tobacco tax does not even cover the
healtcare costs the slightest.
but i suppose you have to say something to defend your addiction, irrespective
of how stupid you look. that is the typical behaviour addicts display. they
cannot face their own addiction and instead bring other things into play, such
as alcohol, to distract from their own worthless existence. you are just trying
to disguise how ashamed you are of yourselves, and by blaming others make your
own existence seem more valuable, when in actual fact smokers are nothing but
vermin to the healthy, responsible society.
but luckily this intelligent government has pulled the plug on big tobacco and
you can't belive that noone is supporting you while you are craving for your
next toxic fix.
I sincerely hope that you will all die a painful death. i should actually hope
that it is slow, but in your case, the sooner and the quicker the better before
you keep crippling the NHS and continue to be a financial drain on the normal,
responsible taxpayers.
Just one problem: Pipe smokers live longer than non-Smokers.
Two from an Australian article on banning smoking on balconies:
clay brimson Posted at 12:11 AM May 16, 2012
if you find smoke drifting into your home, pee into a bucket, fill up a water pistol with it, and let urine accidently drift into there home - place an anonymous message in there letterbox letting them know of the corrolation of their smoke and their balcony reeking of urine - they will get the hint quickly........just dont reveal which unit your from!!!
Bob Posted at 10:05 AM May 16, 2012
Smokers are deluded. You can see that in the comments here. If I lived in strata and had a smoker annoying me I'd get some noxious chemicals and pump it into their unit. After all, it's my right to do that yeah?
A sighting of the 'lepers' insult - one for only the most mentally unbalanced of psychos - at Taking Liberties.
http://taking-liberties.squarespace.com/blog/2012/5/24/environmental-health-officers-redefine-petty-officialdom.html
Comment on Facebook from a racist smokerphobic bigot. 24/05/12 : "
Lilac Templar de Tremelay I'd allow every non-muslim citizen the right to bear arms, but no smoking in public. I don't want some stinky pig's second-hand smoke. .."
Here's the link to the above but you might not be able to access it if you're not a mutual "friend"
https://www.facebook.com/scott.newton.94/posts/364777700268766?notif_t=share_reply
This is a very odd (and scary) one, courtesy of Russia Today. None of the comments mentioned smoking at all.
A UN-funded Palestinian NGO has performed a puppet show for children
in East Jerusalem. The message: put down the cigarette and pick up a
machine gun to fight the Jewish enemy.
The children who gathered to watch the puppet show
at the Burj Luq Luq community center in Jerusalem’s old city quickly
learned that while smoking cigarettes was bad, the smoking barrel of a
gun is good.
One puppet related that many young people believe cigarettes will help them grow and become men.
“Jerusalem doesn’t need men who hold cigarettes. It needs men who hold machine guns,” the
puppet told the audience of school-aged children behind a white
backdrop which, among other things, ironically depicted a white dove
flying in the sky.
The puppet then broke into song, glorifying
martyrdom after telling the children that Jerusalem was being kept from
them and the Jews were killing the children of Palestine.
“Jerusalem,
we are coming, Jerusalem, the time of death has arrived. Jerusalem, we
will not surrender to the enemies or be humiliated," the puppet sang.
The
Burj Luq-Luq Community Center and Society has been supported by various
branches of the United Nations, including UNICEF and UNESCO. It has
also been financed by international donors, Palestinian Media Watch
(PMW) – translators of the video – reports.
This is not the first
time that UN funds and international donor money have been used for
anti-Jewish propaganda targeting children.
In February 2011, the
Palestinian children’s magazine Zayzafouna published an article written
by a teenage girl who recounts a dream about Adolf Hitler. The writer
said Hitler had told her he killed Jews “so you would all know that they are a nation which spreads destruction all over the world.”
In
the ensuing media firestorm that followed PMW’s translation of the
article, The UN’s cultural agency cut funding to the magazine last
December, saying it strongly condemned the publication of such “inflammatory statements.”
No
UN body or international donor has responded to the latest funding
controversy regarding the propaganda puppetry and its violent message to
children.
From a Francophone blog from 2010:
http://ploum.net/post/Le-respect-s-envole-en-fumee
In one of the comments (No. 23), a reader — Laurent — objects to being compared to a Nazi. Yet, he then goes on to say:
‘However, when I see parents and teachers smoking after school
waiting for the children to come out … among them mine — it makes me
want to murder.
‘When I learn that my colleague takes 20 minutes worth of fag breaks a day, it makes me want to murder.
‘When I think of the years my father lost because of his … cigarettes
and that my son will never know his grandfather, it makes me want to
murder.’
Same site — comment No. 31 by Quark, which ends with:
‘This will finish in death, death for a cigarette lit in the wrong place, at the wrong time in front of the wrong person.’
Churchmouse has found some cracking examples from France. :)
http://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/a-french-perspective-on-ever-expanding-fines-and-bans/
Got my attention for a second there when i saw
the headline"A jab to quit smoking"Thought they were making it legal to
smack someone in the mouth who is smoking next to me while i wait for my
wife outside M&S.
- chris, fife, 28/6/2012 10:09
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2165485/A-jab-quit-smoking-DNA-vaccine-halt-nicotine-cravings-used-stop-children-starting-habit.html#ixzz1z5ji59Qk
From Ed West's praise of the smoking ban five years on --
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100168040/the-smoking-ban-was-right-i-love-big-brother/#disqus_thread
Jayaydee ( http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100168040/the-smoking-ban-was-right-i-love-big-brother/#comment-570385746 ) says:
‘… But, surely it is right that doing anything that damages another
nearby person’s health should not be allowed? … The alternative is to
provide separate areas for smokers where smoke drift or smell therefrom
is impossible. Or, perhaps, smokers could don large plastic bags,
sealed at the neck?’
Smoking is, apparently, "the moral equivalent of rape" according to one commmenter here.
https://theconversation.edu.au/why-banning-cigarettes-is-the-next-step-in-tobacco-control-8915
A particularly good example here from Ireland.
"Would I have a problem if we just shot all smokers and started again with a smoke free Ireland. Smokers are vile disgusting people can we not just eliminate them"
http://www.thejournal.ie/james-reilly-versus-tobacco-industry-1230519-Dec2013/?utm_source=shortlink
To see 130ish examples displayed in a compact format visit http://bit.ly/WallOfHate
It's actually a four page section from TobakkoNacht I designed in an attempt to communicate the amount of hate that has been promoted by the Antis over the years. I set it up as a downloadable, printable poster so people could share it in appropriate places as a bit of a consciousness raiser.
- MJM
For some unknown reason, the link to the poster is displaying a horribly degraded, barely readable script. If anyone *wants* to print it out or read it all and would be interested in a high resolution copy, simply write me at Cantiloper at gmail dot com and I'll happily send one to you!
- MJM
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